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Waves Tear Off Stern From SS Palo Alto, aka, 'The Concrete Ship,' in Santa Cruz County
NBC Bay Area ^ | 1/23

Posted on 01/23/2017 11:57:29 AM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 01/23/2017 11:57:29 AM PST by nickcarraway
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Looks like a poop covered gull magnet......


2 posted on 01/23/2017 12:00:39 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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“Abandon ship!”

I grew up going to generally cold Rio Del Mar beach in Aptos, Calif. and wondered about that ship out there. Didn’t know it was called the SS Palo Alto - I grew up in Palo Alto.


3 posted on 01/23/2017 12:01:37 PM PST by Jim W N
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Wow, back in 2001 when I was 12 we visited Santa Cruz and seeing the "Cement Boat" was a big deal.

Just how did they expect that work?

4 posted on 01/23/2017 12:02:38 PM PST by KC_Lion ("I'm a believer that you don't need a title, and you don't need an office to make a difference"~S.P.)
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Many years ago, when the first Whole Earth Catalog came out, there was an article about ferroconcrete ship hulls. I read a bit more, and soon found that experiments had been done to find the optimum ratio of steel to concrete for hull strength. It was 100% steel, zero concrete...


5 posted on 01/23/2017 12:03:04 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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We have one here.
It was turned into a floating marine supplies store..............


6 posted on 01/23/2017 12:06:54 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: KC_Lion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_ship


7 posted on 01/23/2017 12:08:30 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I read a bit more, and soon found that experiments had been done to find the optimum ratio of steel to concrete for hull strength. It was 100% steel, zero concrete...

Sort of like asking "what handles bending better, candy canes or caramel?"

8 posted on 01/23/2017 12:08:35 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Sort of like Bart Simpson’s secret to the best PB&J sandwich: no PB; all J.


9 posted on 01/23/2017 12:08:43 PM PST by Oratam
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The front fell off!
10 posted on 01/23/2017 12:08:51 PM PST by Obadiah (Welcome to the revolution!)
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Here’s the story of ours:

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20160203/long-strange-history-of-boat


11 posted on 01/23/2017 12:10:11 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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So this thing hasn’t actually moved or even floated for over 70 years.


12 posted on 01/23/2017 12:13:00 PM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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Jeannie was right not wanting Tony to get on a cement ship.

13 posted on 01/23/2017 12:13:13 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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There’s the remains of a concrete ship just south of Bimini, Bahamas.
USS Sapona. Understand it was used in rum running days.
Snorkeled through it. Fascinating.
Can see parts of the engine and other debris. Schools of Yellow-tail snapper.
Oh, and barracuda as long as you.!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Sapona


14 posted on 01/23/2017 12:15:09 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Pearls Before Swine :" Many years ago, when the first Whole Earth Catalog came out, there was an article about ferroconcrete ship hulls.."

Right !
The ferroconcrete was recommended for covering Buckey Fuller's Geodesic domes, on the outter shell.
I still have the Whole Earth Catalogue, vol 1, number 1.
I even made a geodesic dome skeleton out of tongue depressors about 12 -14 inches high, and it was able to support my weight (then) of 185 pounds.
I was looking into the dome as for low-income housing; but found that without curved furniture, there was too much wasted space; ideal for air circulation (wood stove), though !

15 posted on 01/23/2017 12:20:00 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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Cool pics. Here's one that I found...


16 posted on 01/23/2017 12:25:49 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: KC_Lion

Ferro cement boats have worked very well for their intended design, cheap and fast to build, they helped carry a lot of supplies for our military. Started in WW1 and continued in WW2. The fact that they are still around show just how durable they can be.

Now, if we were to use more modern tech, say fiber glass rods instead of steel, flexible mesh over the rods, fiber reinforced flexible concrete, coated with Grancrete or epoxy and then painted, you would a very sturdy ship that was a lot less expensive than a steel one. And while I have not run the math, with light weight concrete, you could be lighter than steel.

Might even be possible to build a boat with AAC.


17 posted on 01/23/2017 12:33:09 PM PST by taxcontrol
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Used to fish off that thing back in the day.


18 posted on 01/23/2017 12:45:49 PM PST by lardog ( Glad Obama is gone)
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In 1971 I worked for a boat yard in Tacoma, Washington where we built a 45 foot fishing vessel from ferro-cement that my father had designed.
The framing was 1" steel tubing with several layers of 1/2" wire mesh wired to the tubing and hog-ringed about every inch to pull the mesh together. Talk about sore hands after a week of squeezing hog rings - then the plastering with cement by a special team brought in from British Columbia. It was a 5 gallon bucket brigade of wet cement (no aggregate) for several hours, and not much fun.
The customer was from Cordova, Alaska and was thrilled at the finished product - don't know if she's still in service.
19 posted on 01/23/2017 12:50:39 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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I’ve come to believe that calling a ship unsinkable or indestructible, etc, is tantamount to daring God to prove you wrong.

He has a tendency to take up the offer.


20 posted on 01/23/2017 12:54:08 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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