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Ms. Ioffe writes for various Left Wing publications. I guess to Ms. Ioffe Obama's inauguration was Year Zero so all the stuff about the French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, 1848 Revolution, WW I, Communism, the Nazis, WWII does not count. Cue "Don't Know Much About History" song.
1 posted on 01/12/2017 1:37:25 PM PST by C19fan
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If tolerating Muslims raping my daughter makes me civilized, then call me TROG.


2 posted on 01/12/2017 1:39:16 PM PST by gaijin
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The events of the last few months are just reminder that America was always Europe’s bizarre, messy, violent, and uncivilized cousin.

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Dummy has it BACKWARDS. As Europe goes down the tubes - America follows a few years later.

Fortunately Trump will halt our descent into muslim control.


3 posted on 01/12/2017 1:39:50 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Yeah, nothing like a few extermination camps to show us what a real civilization looks like, right?


4 posted on 01/12/2017 1:40:09 PM PST by Billthedrill
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A few hundred million killed may dispute the claim.


5 posted on 01/12/2017 1:42:16 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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Hard to imagine anything more messy, violent, and uncivilized than the two World Wars.


6 posted on 01/12/2017 1:42:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Is it bizarre for me to tell this jaxkass to go to hell?


7 posted on 01/12/2017 1:43:09 PM PST by dforest
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I'd say that her comment is something that elitist Europhiles have been saying for hundreds of years, but that would be giving her too much credit.

8 posted on 01/12/2017 1:43:19 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Feudalists have a hard time with divided government.
Democratic feudalism, called socialism, is there idea of Utopia.

That line about an advanced technology appearing to be magic to a savage is also apt.


9 posted on 01/12/2017 1:43:39 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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[@timbob711 @DarrenList @juliaioffe America is your cousin with better teeth and a republic]

Great response! LOL


10 posted on 01/12/2017 1:44:47 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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“America was always Europe’s bizarre, messy, violent, and uncivilized cousin.”

Paris Burning, Rape Night in Germany, war in Bosnia...


11 posted on 01/12/2017 1:45:34 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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Well, the US doesn’t like dynasties. That tends to speed up the taking of action on conflicts. Something like the US Civil War would never have happened in Europe between peoples of that similar a culture. This hyper freedom model can slop over into excesses, but it’s also very pregnant to corrections (viz. the Donald).

It’s a dangerous idea. We love it!

https://soundcloud.com/user925900765/dangerous-ideas-backing-track

Dangerous Ideas

Jim and Joe’s dad had a cool racing shop
The boys went to the junk yard to see what they could chop
Got a beat-up Chevy Vega and a Dodge Hemi V-8
Hooked ‘em together and it took off at the awesomest rate!

Dangerous ideas — that’s the spirit of the USA
Dangerous ideas — they gave birth to the American way
Dangerous ideas — no one dared to try this before
Dangerous ideas — the world’s envy from shore to shore!

Ole King George he was a very meddlesome man
Said “I’ll control the new world in ev’ry way that I can.”
His subjects over here finally had enough
And threw ole George a big tea party, sayin’ “you don’t like it? that’s tough!”

Dangerous ideas — that’s the spirit of the USA
Dangerous ideas — they gave birth to the American way
Dangerous ideas — no one dared to try this before
Dangerous ideas — the world’s envy from shore to shore!

Once more the snooty powers think to get the upper hand
To tax the wealth and patience of this once fair land
But the American spirit will throw the lot out on their funny ears
And restore the respect and honor of the ages and years.

Dangerous ideas — that’s the spirit of the USA
Dangerous ideas — they gave birth to the American way
Dangerous ideas — no one dared to try this before
Dangerous ideas — the world’s envy from shore to shore!


12 posted on 01/12/2017 1:46:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Ignoring history.

Progressive/liberal favorite sport...


13 posted on 01/12/2017 1:46:39 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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America releases its social pressures, anxieties, economic dislocation, etc... in short, common, mostly peaceful bursts.

Free societies allow for constant change, disruption and reformation.

Please like Europe, and particularly places like Japan, with more rigid, top-down statist, collectivist and conformist societies tend to cover over or downplay differences.

Eventually in Europe though, the pressure builds and you get things like WWII or the holocaust.

the lesson? Have more freedom and rule of civil society instead of government - have a more stable society.


15 posted on 01/12/2017 1:50:21 PM PST by PGR88
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Europe's bizarre, messy, violent, and uncivilized cousin.

Hey, we're not the ones regressing to the 14th century.

That would be Europe allowing/encouraging your muzzie buddies to take you there.

16 posted on 01/12/2017 1:51:32 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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“Europe’s bizarre, messy, violent, and uncivilized cousin.”

He’s referring to the most prosperous, most powerful, most productive, freest nation in the history of the planet.


20 posted on 01/12/2017 2:01:10 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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Oh for goodness sake, so says the Europe that’s tried to exterminate one or the other group twice in the past century?

Are they having another outbreak of ergot over there or something? Hold onto your hats if so, the blood’s going to start running in the streets again.


26 posted on 01/12/2017 2:10:07 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Just got to laugh when people from 3rd World European countries try to shame us ... they don’t even have a bill of rights, they just get what their betters allow them.


34 posted on 01/12/2017 2:50:52 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Dan Rather, a 60 Minutes Investigative Reporter for CBS, invented "Fake News"-fake but accurate.)
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Here we go ... The tired old trope about how civilized Europe is and how we "New Worlders" are a bunch of gun-totin' Wild West hicks with no history and no sense of decorum.

But let's see ... What continent has been the scene of two world wars in the last century, and virtually non-stop war and revolution in the century before that ...?

Spare me the effete pretensions.

37 posted on 01/12/2017 3:44:53 PM PST by IronJack
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Let see ..how many World Wars started in Europe??? Vs America


38 posted on 01/12/2017 3:45:57 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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Marxism killed a conservatively estimated 100 million people in the 20th century. Thank you Europe, how very civilized!


39 posted on 01/12/2017 4:12:28 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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