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Soros' bleak 2017 forecast: Billionaire warns EU will FALL after elite 'STOLE democracy'
UK Express ^ | 03:48, Tue. Jan. 3, 2017 | Jon Rogers

Posted on 01/03/2017 6:42:22 AM PST by wtd

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To: wtd

I do wish this guy would ..........


41 posted on 01/03/2017 7:53:46 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: InterceptPoint

From the Latest Edition of the Soros New World Dictionary:

Democracy: A system where George Soros is the sole arbiter of what’s good, what’s bad, who wins and who loses. Independent thinking is discouraged and generally punished.

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Yeah, I know it’s fairly early, but yours is the post of the day.


42 posted on 01/03/2017 7:59:02 AM PST by Bigg Red (To Thee, O Lord, I lift my soul. Thank you for saving our Republic.)
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To: wtd

Soros is brilliant for this prediction? Who didn’t see it coming after Brexit?


43 posted on 01/03/2017 8:09:47 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: wtd

lol nancy in a red dress acting like a jilted girlfriend who was rejected right before the prom


44 posted on 01/03/2017 9:00:44 AM PST by Bob434
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To: ConservativeDude

Well you can, but the problem is, and it has been the problem in europe since before the Euro, its why the euro/eu was destined to collapse... you have wildly differing levels of output and production per capita across Europe... that’s not a problem in and of itself, we have vastly different levels of GDP per state in the US as well, and debt and everything else...

The problem in Europe is each of these states has embraced socialist constructs, guaranteeing their workers annual raises and benefit increases without any demand for production increases or improvements...

This isn’t a big problem when each country is minting its own money... if Spain for example guarantees its people 5% more in benefit per year.. when there is no increase in production the central bank just prints 5% more notes... no fuss no muss... they get the 5% increase by simply devaluing their currency 5%.... and this is how it went across europe for decades.. the problem comes when the state can no longer print its own currency, but still tries to deliver on promised socialist increases every year in benefits... they won’t stop giving the benefit because the people would revolt, so the only option they have is to borrow an extra 5% per year, with no increase in productivity.... and sooner or later, this falls apart... ala Greece... and austerity is forced upon a nation because it can no longer borrow money without it.

The Euro didn’t require any ending of the nonsense games by these lesser nations... so they for 20 years just kept borrowing to keep up with their promised benefits... some have already economically collapsed because of it.. Greece for example, but others will fall as well.

That’s just the pragmatic economic folly of the Euro zone... That doesn’t even get into the centralized bureaucracy that has popped up trying to centralize political power.. which will be abjectly rejected by states as they and their populations anger that the loss of autonomy to unelected bureaucrats who make their daily lives illegal for some idiotic leftist political goal or another.


45 posted on 01/03/2017 9:06:40 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: bk1000

The EU/Euro is going to collapse, its as predictable as the sunrise, the only question is when exactly it will happen.. it was a flawed and failed construct from day one.. and that was without the EU trying to consolidate political power to Brussels Bureaucrats. The fundamental economic construct of the Euro is fatally flawed and has been since day one....

Then you add to it the political nonsense added on top of it, just exacerbates the problems..

The EU will either be completely gone, or will be a few straggling states around Germany’s orbit within a decade, two at the most.


46 posted on 01/03/2017 9:11:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MrEdd

“If you did not see Trump’s election in The Art of War, you did not comprehend it worth a damn.”
“Semper Fidelis.”

Miscommunication on my part... sorry..

My comment, “For anyone who has read and studied the great text.. “Art of War,” everything that is unfolding is very predictable. (except Trumps election).” I make this statement from the perspective of Soros and the Global Elite.

Trump used the “Art of War” techniques very well.

What I meant was that Trump did not fit into the Global elite’s plan and how they were utilizing the Art of War on the sheeple. Trump is the most strategic thinker I have ever observed in action, to the extent that most people do not understand him.

Several years ago I read the Trump unauthorized biography by Jerome Tuccille that was done in 1985. It was very detailed and objective presentation of Trumps childhood, family and his experiences growing up. It allowed me to get inside Trump’s head. The more I learned, the more respect I have for him. I sincerely pray that his motive is pure. He is a genius when it comes to strategy.

There is another “Art of War” I found helpful by Chairman Mao Zedong and how he used it to beat General Chiang Kai-shek and take over China. I find historical strategies a fascinating subject and have been studying it for years. The techniques are all pretty much the same. The application varies to fit the environment.


47 posted on 01/03/2017 9:15:37 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: HamiltonJay

“the problem comes when the state can no longer print its own currency, but still tries to deliver on promised socialist increases every year in benefits... they won’t stop giving the benefit because the people would revolt, so the only option they have is to borrow an extra 5% per year, with no increase in productivity.... and sooner or later, this falls apart... ala Greece... and austerity is forced upon a nation because it can no longer borrow money without it”

Yes, well said. More precisely, my original question would have been stated better had I qualified it by saying that the different budgets among different states are not a problem, so long as all of the budgets are realistic and are similar in scope and scale.

The old school correction for this would be a devaluing of the currency.....until the devaluation attracts capital from without (which will only come when it sees that it will be productively invested). But with one currency, Greece can’t devalue without pulling down Germany.

So, as you rightly note, the only “solution” is for Germany to take over the budget of Greece and force austerity, etc.

And interestingly....even then...they haven’t been able to stop the euro from reaching parity with the dollar, have they?

Helpful discussion. Thank you.


48 posted on 01/03/2017 9:17:55 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld

The same one that afflicts Obama. Cause the problem, complain about it, shamelessly take no responsibility for it.


49 posted on 01/03/2017 10:38:51 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Notice that he doesn’t mention the invasion at all, as though it has nothing to do with the inevitable breakup.

He is the ultimate open border monger.


50 posted on 01/03/2017 10:42:42 AM PST by aquila48
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To: wtd

Goodness. Soros, Mr. Open Society (borders) is responsible for much of the uneasiness in both the US and Europe.


51 posted on 01/03/2017 2:17:11 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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