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6 missing after small plane loses contact over Lake Erie
CNN ^ | December 30, 2016 | AnneClaire Stapleton

Posted on 12/30/2016 6:06:50 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

(CNN) — The US Coast Guard was searching Lake Erie Friday for a small plane carrying six people who had attended a Cleveland Cavaliers basketball game before flying out of the city late Thursday.

Three adults and three children were on board the aircraft, CNN affiliate WEWS reported. Their identities were not immediately known.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aviation; lakeerie; missing; plane

1 posted on 12/30/2016 6:06:50 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement
Three adults and three children were on board the aircraft ...
Damn, this isn't going to end well.
2 posted on 12/30/2016 6:11:29 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ConservativeStatement

All to save a few minutes or a few dollars.


3 posted on 12/30/2016 6:13:45 AM PST by Ace's Dad ("America is Great because America is Good " Alexis de Tocqueville)
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To: oh8eleven

Apparently it was supposed to go to Columbus Ohio. It must have been over the lake only briefly as it was going to turn back and go to Columbus. It is a Cessna Citation 525 which looks like a very nice little jet. This is really odd


4 posted on 12/30/2016 6:16:50 AM PST by BRL
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’m no pilot, but I did live in Cleveland most of my life.

Burke-Lakefront is obviously on the lake front. But the lake is North and Columbus (the destination) is South. I assume the pilot takes off and dose a leftward 270 loop over the lake to head South.

So that, at least, puts the plane close to shore in shallower water. Maybe some of the occupants have a chance of surviving if they’re found quickly.


5 posted on 12/30/2016 6:19:11 AM PST by chrisser
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To: chrisser

I’ve taken the shuttle out of Burke lakefront a couple of times with the 270 left turn to go south as you mention. We were over water about five minutes of the flight departing and arriving.

Water landing would not be fun in a Cessna and at current lake temperature.


6 posted on 12/30/2016 6:21:46 AM PST by delapaz
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To: Ace's Dad

“All to save a few minutes or a few dollars.”

??? I fly GA and am DAMN appreciative I do not have to go through TSA.

Peace for these six folks.


7 posted on 12/30/2016 6:23:11 AM PST by BBB333 (The power of TRUMP compels you!)
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To: ConservativeStatement; Anoreth
The search operation was being made "very difficult" by 12- to 15-foot waves on Lake Erie, the Coast Guard said.
8 posted on 12/30/2016 6:26:22 AM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't get to be an old drunk by doing stupid things with guns."~Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: chrisser

As cold as that lake water is, time in it is very short, especially with any injuries.


9 posted on 12/30/2016 6:39:20 AM PST by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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“Maybe some of the occupants have a chance of surviving if they’re found quickly.”.....

Highly unlikely. Downed in open water, they would expire very quickly without “survival suits”, water temperature would take its toll.


10 posted on 12/30/2016 6:40:08 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: ConservativeStatement

Not a good place to be lost over.


11 posted on 12/30/2016 6:42:01 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Wondering if lake effect snow played a part. Cleveland was forecast to get 3-6 inches yesterday. Heavy snow and no landmarks is disorienting.


12 posted on 12/30/2016 6:53:31 AM PST by neefer (We're walking real proud and we're talking real loud again.)
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To: BBB333

#1 Is a basketball game REALLY that important?

#2 WHY do people persist in acting as though weather doesn’t matter when flying OR driving?

So many of these crashes of both vehicles can be attributed to poor judgment.Very few crashes are mechanical failure.


13 posted on 12/30/2016 6:59:28 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: chrisser
So that, at least, puts the plane close to shore in shallower water. Maybe some of the occupants have a chance of surviving if they’re found quickly.

Just about zero chance. No distress call means something went bad very quickly. Two minutes out he would have been about 5000 feet. If at 5000 he could have glided over 20 miles without power. The aircraft is less than 12500 pounds so thus certified for single pilot operation. If it was flying single pilot that day a heart attack or stroke could have taken the pilot out.

Even if put down in the water without breaking up (very doubtful) the passengers would surly perish due to hypothermia.

14 posted on 12/30/2016 7:51:18 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: chrisser
So that, at least, puts the plane close to shore in shallower water. Maybe some of the occupants have a chance of surviving if they’re found quickly.

Amen to that - probably lost all aboard but, as anyone who has been around the great lakes knows, the smallest (Ontario) may as well be an ocean when one is looking at it, or on it and out of sight from land.

There were times when weather conditions were right when we could see the lights of Toronto, 40 miles across the lake from Rochester, but it wasn't an often occurrence.

15 posted on 12/30/2016 8:34:21 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Prayers.


16 posted on 12/30/2016 8:54:41 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: neefer

We are to the west of Cleveland and near the lake. We went shopping around six and it was dry. At eight my husband called me to look out the window. Everything was covered and it was coming down fast and hard. An even heavier snow band was expected to the east.


17 posted on 12/30/2016 10:48:35 AM PST by karatemom
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To: ConservativeStatement

Prayers for the families. So had the victims been to the game and were on their way back to Cbus? I wonder what time of the evening that would have been? 11? Midnight?


18 posted on 12/30/2016 11:28:16 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: hoosierham

They already saw the game and were heading home. When it’s time death finds you whether you are in bed in your trailer, sitting in the bathroom or in the car going to work.


19 posted on 12/30/2016 11:28:54 AM PST by stellaluna
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