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Interview: 'Despite fear, we should focus on the positives'Ich Bin Ein Berliner
Deutsche Welle ^ | 22 December 2016 | Gabriel Borrud, Frank FurediSteely Tom

Posted on 12/22/2016 12:02:42 PM PST by Steely Tom

Edited on 12/22/2016 12:58:10 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Remember all the snarky comments about how JFK made a fool of himself when he told millions of Germans Ich bin ein Berliner back in 1963?


(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


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KEYWORDS: germany; jellydonut; jfk; kennedy; presidents
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To: dfwgator

Heh.


41 posted on 12/22/2016 12:33:59 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Steely Tom

helicopter in that picture was owned and operated by the CIA.... The CIA Pilots went places the Army, Air Force and Marines were NOT allowed to go. Many heard of crap happening and went in to help evacuate. No medals for them They were never there.


42 posted on 12/22/2016 12:34:55 PM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Steely Tom

NYT on the subject, from 1988...

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/30/opinion/i-am-a-jelly-filled-doughnut.html


43 posted on 12/22/2016 12:35:39 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“I speak German, by the way”
==
And you’re better at it than Germans. Cool, more power to ya.


44 posted on 12/22/2016 12:38:21 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: mewzilla

“NYT on the subject”
==
Oy, the NYT.


45 posted on 12/22/2016 12:39:51 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: mewzilla
From the article you linked:

What they did not know, but could easily have found out, was that such citizens never refer to themselves as ''Berliners.''

The picture in the story puts the lie to that statement.

46 posted on 12/22/2016 12:40:19 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: Jeff Chandler

"Ich bin ein hasenpfeffer."

47 posted on 12/22/2016 12:40:33 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: LouieFisk

I thought it interesting that the left’s rag of record nailed JFK for the use of the article.


48 posted on 12/22/2016 12:42:04 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Steely Tom
Ich Bin Ein Civilized Christian
49 posted on 12/22/2016 12:42:29 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Steely Tom

Pic? Which pic? My link has no pic, jelly-filled or otherwise.


50 posted on 12/22/2016 12:44:29 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: mewzilla

It was a well-spread urban legend - outside of Germany.


51 posted on 12/22/2016 12:45:16 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Safetgiver
helicopter in that picture was owned and operated by the CIA.... The CIA Pilots went places the Army, Air Force and Marines were NOT allowed to go. Many heard of crap happening and went in to help evacuate. No medals for them They were never there.

Yes, the documentary talked about that. The Air America personnel who were lost as casualties do not have their names listed on the Vietnam Memorial.

They are listed on a memorial at CIA headquarters, however.

Very sad, and poignant. If you haven't watched the documentary, it might be worth your time.

Of course, if you were there, you don't need to see it, obviously. But I found it very moving, and it made me proud.

52 posted on 12/22/2016 12:45:32 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: RegulatorCountry

“I speak German, by the way, spend a summer session in Trier.”

That sounds very.. progressive.

http://health.usnews.com/doctors/herbert-trier-438103


53 posted on 12/22/2016 12:45:40 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: dfwgator

That was Weiner.


54 posted on 12/22/2016 12:46:20 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Gay State Conservative

And if you mean the pic at the top of the thread, FWIW, I don’t think that’s necessarily indicative. Language changes. Better standard: what was proper grammar 50 years ago: with the article or without?


55 posted on 12/22/2016 12:47:26 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: mewzilla
Pic? Which pic? My link has no pic, jelly-filled or otherwise.

I had to ask the mods to remove it because it came from Getty Images. They're a source we can't use on FR.

I'm sorry everyone.

Just click on this link and you can see it.

56 posted on 12/22/2016 12:47:36 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: humblegunner

https://www.uni-trier.de/index.php?id=48&L=2


57 posted on 12/22/2016 12:47:59 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Steely Tom; Gay State Conservative

Sorry, GSC, that reply was meant for ST.


58 posted on 12/22/2016 12:48:55 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Steely Tom
Ich bin Krispy Kreme.


59 posted on 12/22/2016 12:50:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Steely Tom

No prob :)

2 issues: Was the use of the article 50 yrs ago proper grammar or not? And if not, shouldn’t JFK’s speechwriters and/or the striped pants brigade (diplomats) have caught it?


60 posted on 12/22/2016 12:51:54 PM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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