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Roger Goodell owes Tom Brady an apology
Yahoo Sports ^ | 13 Dec 16 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 12/13/2016 4:12:49 PM PST by big'ol_freeper

On Dec. 4, the New York Giants got ahold of a couple of Pittsburgh Steeler footballs and decided to see if they were below the NFL pregame inflation minimum of 12.5 pounds per square inch.

“The PSIs were a little low,” Giants coach Ben McAdoo said.

According to the ProFootballTalk, the balls came in at 11.8 and 11.4 psi. The Giants told the league, although not via a “formal complaint,” whatever that is. The NFL isn’t saying much, but it apparently checked to see if the referees had maintained control of the balls and dismissed the situation quickly.

Why? Because by time the Giants obtained and presumably checked the balls on the sideline, the temperature in Pittsburgh was between 41.0 and 41.2 degrees, according to Weather Underground’s historical data.

Footballs lose air pressure in cold weather. The numbers were explained away by science, not cheating. This was nothing. Nothing happened, nothing at all.

“All footballs were in compliance,” the NFL stated after Fox’s Jay Glazer reported on the incident.

The situation was properly handled. Good job, NFL.

That means given the chance to do deflate-gate all over again – the initial situation with the New England Patriots scandal is nearly identical (even considering whatever happened in the Foxborough bathroom, which we’ll get to below) – the NFL chose to do nearly the exact opposite.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


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To: big'ol_freeper

deflategate might have been cover for something more egregious...like how Jordan was quietly retired and away from the game....we’ll never know how deep his gambling went..


21 posted on 12/13/2016 5:27:36 PM PST by cherry
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To: SSS Two

Please educate us on why you feel qualified to comment on this subject, and that you can judge others as “scientifically illiterate” when you yourself fail to factor in the effect that moisture content in leather can have on both the porosity and expandability of a leather football?


22 posted on 12/13/2016 5:28:08 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: SSS Two
Ever since the NFL gave a more scientifically accurate explanation of the Ideal Gas Law that MIT scientists did, I have believed that Patriots fans are the most scientically (sic) illiterate fans in the country. This thread does nothing to change that belief.

When did they do that? From everything I've read from them, they're the ones that come across like yokels.

I mean, let's face it - Rog ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. Before this "Deflate-gate" thing, if you had pressed Goodell on the Ideal Gas Law, you would have elicited the longest blank stare imaginable.

Now, if that had been the New York Jets that complained about this, a new study would have been commissioned, at a cost of at least $10 million, recommending Roethlisberger be publicly hung by the balls, but only after lots of innuendo had been applied to suitably smear the guy.

While being vilified, he would not be damaged to the degree Brady was, because (1) he does not play for the Patriots; and (2) he is NOT Tom Brady.

Any questions?

CA....

23 posted on 12/13/2016 5:49:39 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: SSS Two
Instead of calling a group of people names, why don't you watch this video by an MIT professor (John Leonard, PhD) who explains why the NFL is unequivocally wrong in their interpretation of the data gathered by the referees.

Go ahead and watch it, it is both informative and entertaining. (Entertaining if you understand science)

24 posted on 12/13/2016 6:13:01 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: SSS Two

“I have believed that Patriots fans are the most scientically illiterate fans in the country.”

Yikes,that remark has a Hillary fan tone to it——calling Trump voters stupid.

.


25 posted on 12/13/2016 6:18:28 PM PST by Mears
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To: rlmorel

It never ends with these people...does it. Here is the NFL NOT investigating deflated footballs between these 2 teams cause they know that once they open up those can of worms the whole fraud will be exposed. This was never about deflated footballs.


26 posted on 12/13/2016 6:28:22 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: editor-surveyor
Only a man can be “hung.”

You got it backwards.

"Horses are hung, men are hanged"

Is what they taught in real journalism school.

27 posted on 12/13/2016 6:28:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cdExsAQuCQA


28 posted on 12/13/2016 6:35:09 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: nesnah

And dey was right! Lol


29 posted on 12/13/2016 6:42:50 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: chaosagent
"Sorry baby." Tom Brady gay photo: tom brady is gay bradytat2.jpg "I'm a little flat today."
30 posted on 12/13/2016 6:59:58 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I agree that Goodell is a fool and a pox on the league. I wonder about the balls though. What if they were filled in a warm locker room to 12.5, then brought out onto the field in the snow...


31 posted on 12/13/2016 7:03:03 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: LongWayHome

“Here is the NFL NOT investigating deflated footballs between these 2 teams cause they know that once they open up those can of worms the whole fraud will be exposed.”

The only thing that would be exposed is that perhaps the officials mishandled the balls which is hardly fraud. Brady/NE fans seem to be under the impression that the Steelers and/or Roethlisberger himself deflated the footballs. Because of deflategate, the footballs are now in the hands of and managed by the officials, so tampering by players is not possible. Brady directing the “deflator” and then obstructing the investigation by destroying his cell phone is a different matter.


32 posted on 12/13/2016 7:14:27 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ

The point is that the PSI thing was always nonsense. The NFL was/is never going to get into that swamp again (which is why this will not be looked into at all) because they messed up the measurements to begin with that evening the Pat’s played.


33 posted on 12/13/2016 7:35:16 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: big'ol_freeper
Goodell should be hung

Even if he is, which I doubt, he should be fired.

34 posted on 12/13/2016 7:38:54 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: LongWayHome

There are a lot of ignorant people incapable of critical thinking who unthinkingly believe the crap they are fed by the NFL and portions of the media.

They haven’t even got the stones to just admit they can’t raise themselves over a juvenile level of fan hatred you usually see in brainless 12 year old boys.

I could respect them if they just said something like “Hey, I am a (insert team here) fan, and I just hate the Patriots and want them to take all the abuse that is heaped on them, undeserved or not.”

But they won’t do that. They take the pious approach in the way liberals do when they say “it is all for the children” or some BS like that. Bunch of ignorant, useless turds.


35 posted on 12/13/2016 7:47:01 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

I agree & as I have pointed out: the NFL used 2 different pressure gauges to measure the footballs that evening. They got 2 different results. The science, such as it was, was not properly controlled because the initial measurements were not done with the same equipment. The case should have ended there.


36 posted on 12/13/2016 8:10:58 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

If you haven’t seen it, check out the video at the link in the post above. That’s an MIT analysis.


37 posted on 12/13/2016 8:25:45 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel
It makes a significant difference. Wet footballs vs dry ones?

Exponent made detailed measurements of a football's bladder when both wet and dry. The difference is so small, it is within the uncertainty of the measurement devices.

A bigger difference would be the change in atmospheric pressure during the game. During the first half of the 2015 AFC Championship game, the atmospheric pressure declined by 0.07 psi. All else equal, this would increase the measured pressure of the ball by 0.07 psi. (Think of taking a bag of potato chips to a high altitude. The decrease in air pressure makes the bag puff out.)

During the December 4 game in Pittsburgh, the atmospheric pressure declined by 0.03 psi. The change in atmospheric pressure is more statistically significant than the impact of a wet football.

38 posted on 12/13/2016 8:33:41 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: Mears
Yikes,that remark has a Hillary fan tone to it——calling Trump voters stupid.

This further supports my belief that Patriots fans are more comfortable making emotional arguments instead of scientific ones.

39 posted on 12/13/2016 8:35:17 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: big'ol_freeper

Patriots are 11-2. I’m going to say it, TOM BRADY IS THE GREATEST NFL PLAYER OF ALL TIME, EVER.


40 posted on 12/13/2016 8:36:49 PM PST by Trump-a-licious
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