Wow. Talk about selective thought processes. It’s worked out well for them being in the shadows and that convenience only cost 36 people their lives. Even that fact doesn’t wake them up.
Safe Environment? It was a fire trap. Their worry is that the city might start enforcing the fire code on other warehouses used for this, so it's hardly an issue of preserving a "safe environment" - to the contrary.
A bunch of crazy self-pitiers.
Then again, maybe not...
This is why that fire trap existed. The political pressure to allow such buildings to exist is tremendous and the politicians were in cahoots with those who own and occupy them.
Just look at the news conferences in the immediate aftermath of the fire. All of he parties were doing their best to turn attention to the mourning and divert it from the political and social culture that allowed the fire trap to exist.
If, God forbid, there is a similar incident in another building where people live illegally, and more lives are lost, these same people will denounce the city for not taking more aggressive action in the aftermath of the "Ghost Ship" catastrophe .
*Safe environment*??????
Where you risk burning to death?
The delusion is strong in that one.
You know what? if that's their choice, it's on their heads.
I’m in the construction business and all the equipment for sprinklers, fire alarms and smoke control in an event space that size would cost millions. The permits alone would cost hundreds of thousands.
Sure it’s “safer” now but this means only the most wealthy galleries and production companies can afford to legally display their art/music/dance.
Entire neighborhoods in NYC that used to be working art spaces that you could explore are now reduced to a few snooty chain galleries. In poorer areas you can still find warehouses like in this. However, national media hysteria may now shut them all down.
Sure, it was dangerous as hell and the buildings could have killed us any moment. But it was exciting, educational and some of greatest memories I have from being young.
Kids are meant to play in the sticks and mud. Not sit at home in bubblewrap. At what point does all this “safety” legislation start harming their mental health?
Kids are probably taking so many drugs today because every other aspect of their lives is so damn monitored, regulated and controlled. They can’t legally build racers, treehouses, go camping without permits, etc, etc. Their every move is being tracked on GPS. Dating is reduced to an algorithm. 90% of what I did as a kid is outlawed or overpriced today. The only mystery left in their lives is hiding and getting high...
As long as no one outside their little community is blamed after something happens - who cares? Let them burn in their fire traps, or maybe wise up a little after this incident and take better precautions.
“...for people who may inhabit nonconforming bodies or who are queer or in some way an affront to society...”
So, IOW, this hell hole fire trap was a metaphor for the practice of creative body mutilation...And a raging inferno is preferable as a safe space, because laws are for the straights and the haters.
These poor, lost souls....smh.
Nothing says "objective reporting" like a guy who lost friends in the incident...
It is so very interesting to read the defense of living in squalor and depravity while enjoying beautiful music and art. I saw very little original “art” in the photos and, of course, did not hear the music.
I had friends in the 60’s who thought ‘free love’, LSD and cannibis were non threatening and gave them great creative powers. They also had many infections, ate badly and eventually did turn to other forms of recreation. STDs/STIs were rampant.
My friends so wanted me to try LSD and everything else they had. I think they were lonely, distressed due to lack of money and unwillingness to work to make money and mostly they were quite immature...making me wonder if all the drugs they used had contributed to a continuing life as a teen ager no matter their age.
But what never made a positive impression on me was using drugs to BE creative. Perhaps http://luxury.rehabs.com/blog/famous-works-of-art-created-under-the-influence/ and
http://drugabuse.com/20-genius-minds-and-the-drugs-they-were-addicted-to/ would be interesting.
I think there might be a fine line between defined insanity associated with creativity and need for drugs or maybe it is
the pleasantness of being elsewhere and no having to cope albeit for the smallest period of time.
My final thought is I wonder how many wonderful artists have NOT used drugs and yet produced great art. I wonder.
It is so very interesting to read the defense of living in squalor and depravity while enjoying beautiful music and art. I saw very little original “art” in the photos and, of course, did not hear the music.
I had friends in the 60’s who thought ‘free love’, LSD and cannabis were non threatening and gave them great creative powers. They also had many infections, ate badly and eventually did turn to other forms of recreation. STDs/STIs were rampant.
My friends so wanted me to try LSD and everything else they had. I think they were lonely, distressed due to lack of money and unwillingness to work to make money and mostly they were quite immature...making me wonder if all the drugs they used had contributed to a continuing life as a teen ager no matter their age.
But what never made a positive impression on me was using drugs to BE creative. Perhaps http://luxury.rehabs.com/blog/famous-works-of-art-created-under-the-influence/ and
http://drugabuse.com/20-genius-minds-and-the-drugs-they-were-addicted-to/ would be interesting.
I think there might be a fine line between defined insanity associated with creativity and need for drugs or maybe it is
the pleasantness of being elsewhere and no having to cope albeit for the smallest period of time.
My final thought is I wonder how many wonderful artists have NOT used drugs and yet produced great art. I wonder.
Just called yourselves an abortion clinic and the Left will continue to leave you alone to do whatever you want.
“all those people can congregate there, and they can do so in a safe environment.”
He’s kidding, right?
A little responsibility and accountable? As “Good it Gets.”
Uh, yeah. Enforcing fire safety and zoning regulations to avoid keep dozens more from burning alive qualifies as “witch hunts”.
something tells me that continuously referring to these bunches of squatters as “artists” is pretty much like calling all of the drug-dealing gang-bangers who shoot each other to death as “aspiring rappers”.