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An open letter to men, who can help female runners feel safe
NT News ^ | December 6, 2016 | Carolyn Tate

Posted on 12/06/2016 11:08:19 AM PST by conservative98

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To: vigilence

She lives in Australia, where guns are banned to prevent crime. DOH!


61 posted on 12/06/2016 11:42:42 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: VTenigma
The I wanna do what I wanna do when I wanna do it mentality in this country is amazing.

It's amazing in Australia, too.

62 posted on 12/06/2016 11:42:49 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: PGR88

The first 2/3 of her letter reminds us WHY society developed a structure where men protected women, with chivalry and rules of behavior.

Then she launches into the EXACT sort of Feminist diatribe that blew all that up.


63 posted on 12/06/2016 11:44:29 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: conservative98

The girl who wrote this lives in Australia. If only she could carry a gun. I thought those strict gun laws in Australia stopped all crime?


64 posted on 12/06/2016 11:45:04 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: conservative98

There are good guys, bad guys, and some that are rude to varying degrees.

The bad and the rude direct their activities toward males as well, just in different contexts.

While not many guys are going to get “nice tits”, they are far more likely to get “what are you doing in my neighborhood” and get the crap kicked out of them by multiple assailants just for being there.

Maybe an extreme example, but I don’t feel like creating a list.

All you can do is recognize it’s a dangerous world. Be aware and act accordingly.


65 posted on 12/06/2016 11:46:07 AM PST by fruser1
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To: conservative98

Why not add: Cut your b#!!s off and hang them from a string around your neck?????


66 posted on 12/06/2016 11:47:24 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: outpostinmass2

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67 posted on 12/06/2016 11:47:45 AM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98

What if it’s a black man running near you or doing any of this stuff?

Would you suddenly feel like a racist for saying this?

Not all blacks are dangerous rapists.
Not all men are dangerous rapists.

Then don’t write this sexist crap please and get over yourself.


68 posted on 12/06/2016 11:48:28 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: conservative98
make the streets a fun place to run again.

I've never thought of running as "fun." It's nothing for me to walk 5-7 miles and more, at a brisk pace (I consider a 16 minute mile pace as "brisk"), but I never see anyone with a happy look on their face when they're running.

This woman must be a real hoot to deal with.

69 posted on 12/06/2016 11:48:58 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: conservative98

Wow, just a bunch of whining and complaining. If a guy running the opposite route, towards her, makes her feel uncomfortable, I am pretty sure there ain’t much to do to help her.... and I thought men and women were equal, so why does she feel inferior?


70 posted on 12/06/2016 11:49:00 AM PST by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: conservative98

As a corollary to this, I once asked a female coworker (USAF Sgt) why women chose to hang out with lowlife thugs. She said women like dangerous men.

I asked her, “dangerous like they might kill you?”

She said yes.

Weird.

This, of course, does not apply to women who are innocently going about their business. Women who can, should carry.


71 posted on 12/06/2016 11:49:11 AM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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To: conservative98
Why doesn't she just buy a treadmill?
72 posted on 12/06/2016 11:49:21 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: conservative98

“Every woman I know has been in a situation at least once in their life when they thought their life was actually in danger. Can you imagine that?”

Yes, actually. We men _can_ imagine that.

Often because we _have_ actually been in danger. We men are in fact wired to take existential risks to protect others (strangers included): that’s why we so often become soldiers, police, rescuers, etc.

The difference, as noted by the nature of the author’s screed, is that our reaction to such a situation (imagined or real) inspires us to provide for our own safety & security - NOT to plead with half the population at large to behave better, when those listening aren’t the problem, and those who are the problem aren’t listening.

Yes, those of us reading aren’t trying to cause you problems. We probably already do what you beg us to (be polite, be gone).
Take the response:
- be armed (get a gun)
- be aware (take out the d@mn headphones)
- don’t be provocative (if you dress deliberately for attention, don’t be surprised if you get it)
- don’t equate normal men with violent criminals (doesn’t inspire cooperation & protection)


73 posted on 12/06/2016 11:51:30 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: conservative98

Her attitude toward men and fellow joggers is the same as Hillary’s attitude toward the WH staff and SS agents.


74 posted on 12/06/2016 11:52:53 AM PST by afsnco
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To: conservative98
• Stop raping us.
• Stop murdering us.

This is the ridiculous type of stuff that annoys me so much about... well, just about any kind of sexual assault training or the "Take back the night" efforts. The kind of men who do that kind of stuff aren't going to stop just because you tried to "raise their awareness" about it.

Oh, and the woman who wrote this should try to find a safer place to run. I live in a safe neighborhood. I have no worries about running in my neighborhood. I run at work sometimes, too, and feel no danger there, either. And I wear headphones. That woman should probably move to a safer neighborhood, or at least get some running buddies.

75 posted on 12/06/2016 11:53:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: conservative98

If I were running in Australia I’d be a lot more concerned about the crocs, snakes, spiders, and other critters that can fell you quicker than you could say G’day than any human assailant.


76 posted on 12/06/2016 11:53:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: conservative98

I’m not offended by most of this. There’s a basic point here that I think goes much further, which is that all citizens are to an extent responsible for taking proactive steps to maintain public safety, and not everyone is “equal” when it comes to that responsibility. If you are a male, especially a larger, stronger one, then you need to be aware that people have a reasonable fear of you in places like jogging trails, alleys, parking lots, etc., especially at night and especially when there aren’t a lot of people around.

It’s the same logic that says that if you are a large black person in a dangerous area, you need to be particularly conscious being on your “p’s and q’s” when confronted by an officer of the law. Nothing personal, it’s just a reality of the world as it is.


77 posted on 12/06/2016 11:54:33 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: conservative98

Sure, because the bad guys are reading this and it set them on the path to reform their evil ways.

Dingbat either needs to carry or buy a treadmill and stop buying high calorie lattes at Starbucks.


78 posted on 12/06/2016 11:54:40 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC sit<Pe, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: conservative98
Every woman I know has been in a situation at least once in their life when they thought their life was actually in danger. Can you imagine that?

Of course I can. I know men, and I know a few things about women.

Women place themselves in situations of incredible danger, foolishly, every day. I wish they would not do that.

79 posted on 12/06/2016 11:54:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: conservative98

“When you’re overtaking us, say something like, ‘Passing on your left’. And then pass quickly.

• Smile and/or wave as you run past us — we like feeling like we’re part of a community. But ignoring us works fine too, if that’s your thing.

• Don’t stop and chat. Mid-run is no place to strike up a new friendship.

• Keep eye contact to a minimum. Anything longer than two seconds is creepy.

• If you see a woman who could be being harassed, stop and ask if she needs help. At worst, you’re wrong and you feel a little sheepish. At best, you could stop something terrible from happening.

• Tell us if you’ve seen something threatening ahead. Are the lights under the bridge out? We love to know stuff like that.”

Aren’t some of these contradictory? Don’t stop and chat - but tell us if there is something threatening ahead. Isn’t that chatting? Isn’t stopping to see if someone is being harassed also approaching and stopping to talk, which is supposed to be a no-no?


80 posted on 12/06/2016 11:55:21 AM PST by Cecily
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