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Will President Trump repatriate antique firearms?
Me | November 17, 2016 | Freedom Is Not Free

Posted on 11/17/2016 5:34:38 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free

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To: central_va

That would be nice. looking for a new snow blower.


41 posted on 11/17/2016 6:32:21 PM PST by CJ Wolf (just a conspiracy theory, no facts behind the above post.)
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To: Know et al

OK. Thanks for letting me know.


42 posted on 11/17/2016 6:32:43 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

Sure. Why not indeed?


43 posted on 11/17/2016 6:33:14 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: elcid1970

Don’t get me wrong. I love the Garand and if I got one, I would get one in collector shape. Just looking for a shooter this time around, hence the M1 carbine.


44 posted on 11/17/2016 6:34:11 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: 03A3

This. See the goal is to GET THEM OVER HERE before the next commie lib administration. We have a pro-gun president who knows gun control doesn’t stop crime. If any president would get these guns repatriated, it would be President Trump.

Maybe the NRA is way ahead of me here and already has a promise secured, I don’t know. The manufactures don’t like it because it competes with their new inventory.


45 posted on 11/17/2016 6:36:08 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: Lazamataz

Well that made my day!


46 posted on 11/17/2016 6:36:23 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Your wish is my command.

http://www.maxim.com/rides/sherman-tank-for-sale-2016-3


47 posted on 11/17/2016 6:39:24 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: ganeemead

Just add it to my growing list of needs.


48 posted on 11/17/2016 6:39:56 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I built my shooter Garand from a new receiver & an all-but-receiver kit imported from Italy. Love it.

These Garand receivers were sold 1998-2000 & I haven’t seen them for sale since.


49 posted on 11/17/2016 6:45:24 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Trump hasn’t found his voice in the RKBA conversation yet.

As a New Yorker, I don’t think guns are even in his thought process. I don’t expect ANY gun legislation to happen during even during a full 8 year term.

SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS

That’s all he has to do. Just get us our justices and we’ll take over from there.


50 posted on 11/17/2016 7:05:20 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Celerity
As a New Yorker, I don’t think guns are even in his thought process.

Disagree. Trump has spoken often about firearms.

I don’t expect ANY gun legislation to happen during even during a full 8 year term.

Totally disagree. We might be able to expect the Hearing Protection Act to pass, allowing unregulated supressor purchase; and Trump's team has specifically mentioned 50-state Reciprocal Conceal Carry permitting. Get a CCW in Georgia, carry in California and New York state.

51 posted on 11/17/2016 7:09:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!!)
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To: Red Steel

Here’s the real problem with the Korean rifles:

Back in the days of the Cold War,there were two ways for an allied country to acquire US military small arms...outright purchase, and the Military Assistance Program (MAP), which was much like the Lend-Lease program of World War II, in that the arms were still technically American property, and were to be either paid for or returned once their service had ended.

South Korea acquired their arms via both modes, and since nobody was thinking of disposal down the road, no records were kept as to which came via which means. The South Koreans sold a large quantity of surplus arms to the US market in the 1980s, but they provided documentation indicating that these arms had been purchased...documentation that was proven fraudulent after the arms had already been sold to the US dealers. (This case of fraud was what shut off the flow of US surplus arms to the US market in the late 80s or early 90s.)

Now, the South Koreans are claiming that *these* are the paid-for rifles, and the arms fraudulently sold in the 80s were the MAP supplies. The US government maintains that these are MAP rifles, and cannot be sold without being paid off first. And the Army’s position is that they don’t pay to take back obsolete property.

So...it’s a massive gray area, and one which probably can’t be resolved to anyone’s satisfaction.

As to other surplus arms in Europe, yes it’s true, they are (or were) there...trouble was, the decision-makers over there found out what their “junk” was selling for in the US, and wanted more money. And just would not listen to the reality that, given all the related expenses of shipment, security, Customs, sales costs etc., it’s just not practical to pay more than about $25 each for surplus weapons, even if they sell for $500 or better retail.


52 posted on 11/17/2016 7:31:55 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Would love to have a Quad 50 duster. I’ve talked to the neighbors about their free-range cats ...
Would settle for a Garand and 1911.


53 posted on 11/17/2016 7:33:09 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: M1903A1

So there isn’t a statute of limitations on this? I mean, basically they reneged on payment of a contract to return some guns. It has been 60 years. Is it still a violation of law after 60 years? I don’t get it. I’m not excusing them, I just thought even international dealings have statutes of limitations. Does that mean we still owe current value for the land we stole from the Indians? I don’t get it.


54 posted on 11/17/2016 8:14:44 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I want a soviet era SVT myself!


55 posted on 11/17/2016 8:16:07 PM PST by sarge83
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To: sarge83

A fine choice.


56 posted on 11/17/2016 8:16:42 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
All things in their proper time - so much more important stuff on his plate for right now.

I would hazard it may be a natural progression as he solidifies the accomplishment of his agenda. I'm for getting the important stuff done then looking at the "would sure be nice" stuff. But....he's efficient enough that things like this may be "squeezed" into some of the big issues.

57 posted on 11/18/2016 3:20:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m aware of what he’s said, but I won’t bet that he’ll do anything.

He may, who knows ?

But all I need to know to get my gun vote are the scotus picks. If this happens then we’re all good to go.


58 posted on 11/18/2016 9:23:41 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Celerity
I’m aware of what he’s said, but I won’t bet that he’ll do anything.

I'll bet for ya. :)

59 posted on 11/18/2016 9:49:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!!)
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To: Celerity

You missed his speech.

Trump has a concealed carry license and carries himself, or so he says.

Here is Trump’s position on guns. He sounds like Reagan to me. This should make you happy. It does me.

Second Amendment Rights

Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:

Enforce The Laws On The Books

We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals.
The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release.

Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.

Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns.We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.

Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gunowners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long. All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years havesomething in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities.

This is just common sense. And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.

Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners

GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS.

Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity
magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

BACKGROUND CHECKS.

There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners.

When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to
be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to o is expand a broken system.

NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY.

The right of self - defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right –then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS.

Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Second_Amendment_Rights.pdf


60 posted on 11/18/2016 5:31:46 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.)
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