Posted on 11/16/2016 9:21:16 AM PST by toast
Officer Jeronimo Yanez faces three criminal charges for the killing of Philando Castile, Ramsey County Attorney John Choi announced Wednesday.
Choi said it was his conclusion that “use of deadly force by Officer Yanez was not justified.” Yanez was charged Wednesday with second-degree manslaughter and two felony counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm.
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Wrong guy. You’re thinking of Keith Scott in North Carolina.
OK,*you're* the cop.You've just shot a guy who has told you that he had a firearm.You claim that you told him not to reach for his ID and his girlfriend claims that you told him to produce his ID.Two,very,*very* different stories.
So...who do we believe? Do we believe you,a cop with a history of booze and/or disciplinary problems or do we believe the girlfriend of a guy who had no criminal history,drug or booze history,no psych history,etc?
Then,we reverse the roles.It's *you* with the clean history and the *dead guy* with a history of booze...drugs...crime...etc,etc.Who are we inclined to believe *then*?
And be mindful that this personal history stuff only comes into play when other evidence is lacking or is so vague and conflicting as to be useless.
Remember...several people claimed,under oath,that the "Gentle Giant" was shot in the back when he was walking (or running) away.But all three autopsy reports showed 1) he had drugs on board 2) that he *wasn't* shot in the back and 3) that gunpowder residue on his hand showed that the cop was telling the truth when he claimed that GG tried to take his service revolver.
Just sayin...
“Wife of Philando was yelling at her husband...”
“Don’t do it!” “Don’t do it!” as he was going for his gun.”
Where did you get that from?
How do we know this? (I didn't watch the whole video)
That is, in general, an excellent point. Let's assume that the subject was told to get his ID, then told a few moments later told not to move. That would certainly lead to confusion on the subject's part.
I'm not saying the subject here is blameless. But I am saying that too often a police officer gives contradictory commands. And it gets worse when multiple cops are on the scene...different cops shouting different commands. I've seen that happen.
These cases always begin with conflicting eyewitness accounts. Now that the states attorney has sorted it out and brought charges, the officer will have a chance to defend himself in court. Seems fair to me.
If a cop tells me not to move along with other commands, I AIN'T MOVING and I'm going to REPEATEDLY ask him "WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, OFFICER?" to let him know that I know that he is in command of the situation.
“Do we believe you,a cop with a history of booze and/or disciplinary problems”
And why would we have employed as a LEO, anyone who has ANY sort of the type of problems you enumerate? I know, I don’t expect an answer because sadly, our “law enforcement” (with the exception of men like David Clarke, who are few and far between) has devolved into “politically-run” organizations. Just look at the $hit in Seattle, Portland, SF, LA and Chicago that poses as law enforcement today. Then take a look at where each one of them have come from. Odds are that they are from Massachusetts, or perhaps New York or New Jersey. And we worry today about the spread of the Muslim Brotherhood when this “sorry-a$$ed $hit” has already spread itself across the country. I’d like to say unqualifiedly, that I support this country’s cops, but based on what I see, I cannot do that today, and the worst of it resides in our RAT-run major cities where it is needed most.
So there's not a single cop in the US today with a booze/drug/psych problem that's gone unrecognized by his/her superiors? And *every* time a cop has the slightest disciplinary issue on the force he/she is immediately fired with the unquestioning consent of the police officers' union?
Wrong case...lol
Most officer involved shooting nowadays they already go into the officers history/background. It’s pretty routine.
Look up Christopher Dorner, LAPD.
EXACTLY! There's a great scene in The Hurt Locker where an American patrol happens upon a small group of people in the middle of the desert dressed like hajjis.The patrol is,understandably,tense and they engage the group.As the soldier approaches the "hajji" closest to them he's barking orders..."don't move",etc.The "hajji" obeys all the commands and is clearly trying to defuse the situation.At one point the soldier gives conflicting instructions and the "hajji" replies "do you want me to do X or do you want me to do Y?"
The hajji,as you'll probably recall,was a Brit.
Whether it's a cop or a soldier you obey instructions to the letter and you do so calmly and slowly.
There have been countless incidents where subjects have been given multiple conflicting commands just prior to shootings. S**t happens.
In fact if everything went by the book according to the officer, why was a felony stop not initiated on the vehicle? That would have avoided all this. It was reported the officer recognized the suspect from a recent armed robbery.
I know of no cop who’d causally walk up to a suspects window in a traffic stop, if they suspected the individual as being an armed robbery suspect.
Did the media ever correct the fact that Castille DID NOT have a concealed carry license. He was half sitting on a gun the Police Officer could see and he continued moving his hand towards the gun after repeatedly being told to raise his hands and not to move. Gov Dayton convicted the Policeman the night of the shooting. How could anyone vote for that goof ball, he gives $hiite house mice a bad name.
My question was rhetorical. I think it's a shame that our so-called “Law Enforcement Community” refuses to police itself. The fact that they don't, says volumes about what they are all really about! Try filing a citizen's complaint against a cop like I did about five years ago. You will find out just how little they care about you and how much they care about themselves. In my case, they made it very clear that if what I was alleging proved to be false (and it wasn't), that I would be subject to arrest and prosecution. So much for the bull$hit about "to protect and to serve!"
Pander politics.
Castile did have a concealed carry license, but it was issued in Hennepin county rather than Ramsey county.
The counties border each other.
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