Posted on 11/10/2016 7:59:24 AM PST by Mr Rogers
These numbers come from Wikipedia articles:
California's popular vote was 5.5 million for Hillary to 3.0 million for Trump, giving Hillary a 2.5 million surplus in California. That surplus gave her a little over 230,000 vote lead nationwide. Without the California vote, the popular vote would have been roughly 56.7 million Trump to 54.4 million Hillary, a 2.3 million surplus for Trump.
The electoral vote was 306 to 232. Without California, the electoral vote would have been 306 to 177 - a 129 vote difference!
In the House, Wiki gives the Republicans 240 seats to 188 for the Democrats. Without California, that would be 226 to 147. And there would be 2 fewer Democrat senators...
#Calexit
With the influx of illegal immigrants, the entire Southwest will generate those statistics in 20 years.
#CalExpulsion
#CalGTFO
Cede it back to Mexico in exchange for a payment that would finance wall construction. Win-win!
I’d gladly accept a tax increase so we could pay Mexico to take it back!
I think Nixon got the popular vote while Kennedy got the EVs in 1960...
‘And if California into the ocean,
Like the mystics and statistics say it will...’
We’d be better off, provided the Freepers all got out beforehand.
Lyrics above by the late, great Warren Zevon.
Well, let them leave. Of course, they do provide most of our fruits and vegetables, and we will have a trade deficit with them, but then, I suppose we can charge them for the water they use up from the Colorado River to grow those things. We will have to build a new Silicon Valley up in the Rust Belt, but we will no longer have to put up with the privacy intrusion and political correctness of Google and Facebook; the Zuckerberg’s of the world can take a hike. And then there’s Hollywood. Oh, how will we do without our rich celebrities?! Yeah, let them leave.
Maybe you could walk me through your math? California has 55 electoral votes, so how could there be a 129 vote difference in the electoral college if you remove California?
It’s been painful watching the downfall of what used to be a wonderful state. I was born there, in Newport Beach, where we took surfing for 1st period PE, our moms were stay at home moms, we could drive anywhere without horrible gridlock, you could go to a medical facility and not have the place packed with droves of illegals with their magic plastic Medical card, and it was a conservative place.
Watching as it becomes a socialist third world is like watching a good friend in hospice, you know the tragic outcome even as you hold out unreasonable hope that something will change.
After living there my entire life, I headed for the midwest two years ago. A red state, of course.
In 2008 there was the vote of three cities that was responsible for Obozo over McCain.
The electoral vote was 306 to 232 = 74 vote margin. If you drop out California’s 55 electoral votes, that would reduce the Democrat side by 55 votes (306 to 177). 74 + 55 = 129. 306 - 177 = 129.
The current 306 to 232 margin came from the Wikipedia article on the 2016 Presidential Election.
Sorry - replied to your first post.
I don’t like vanities, but it shocked me when I looked at what California’s impact on US politics was - and what that means about the other 49 states. Drop off Hawaii as well, and the difference would be even greater.
But 49 states, including NY and Hawaii and Chicago and Miami and Philly - they are still the America I grew up in.
I guarantee that more than a million of those Clinton votes were fraudulent.
Other than smog in LA, the California of the 1960s was incredible. I remember it. We used to go visit it in the 60s and 70s. It was close to paradise at one time!
So you would say it is TRUE that Hillary won the popular vote?
Yup. And add in all the fraudulent votes in Arizona (where Latino activists were frantically signing up illegals during the registration period), plus the illegal voters in Florida and Texas, it wold have been an overwhelming victory for Trump in the popular vote, too. And, as I write this, Arizona and Michigan haven’t been added to the totals by most of the Pravda/Media.
If the criteria for victory indeed was the popular vote, Trump runs a completely different campaign and focuses more on trying to win as many votes in California as he can.
How many potential Trump votes in California didn’t happen because folks there knew it would be an exercise in futility?
Bottom line, if indeed the popular vote were the criteria, Trump probably still wins.
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