Posted on 11/01/2016 2:30:37 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
Hector Morenco @hectormorenco 2h2 hours ago
FBI sources, "Pro HRC faction within FBI trying to charge HRC this week so Obama can pardon. Pro Trump faction wants to wait till Nov 9th." Hector Morenco @hectormorenco 3h3 hours ago
FBI won't charge HRC before election because Obama will use power to pardon her. "If we release Weiner file before Nov. 8th she'll walk."
Hector Morenco @hectormorenco 2h2 hours ago
Wow! Sorry more crazy info. Just told that Obama moving forward with presidential pardon regardless of outcome. God help us all! Going dark. 0 replies 721 retweets 531 likes Hector Morenco @hectormorenco 2h2 hours ago
Last tweet, FBI Trump faction wants to drag it out till Trump is in office. If HRC wins they will charge her after inauguration. Going dark. 0 replies 546 retweets 523 likes
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BO won’t say anything about Hillary if he’s just as guilty as she is because she’s not going down without him.
a president can only ardon for past crimes up to the time of the pardon..whether they are charged or not
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1224.html
try googling presidential pardons, nixon pardon, can a president pardon himself, us constitution etc
capones bookkeeper ratted him out two sets of books
Thanks for the link. Again, I think Ford was only able to do that because he was beginning his presidency, which isn’t the case here. Even so, the legality of it has been questioned.
I thought that there was pretty much always a grand jury impaneled. Not true ?
How much more crap does it take for someone to grow a pair and disqualify her as a candidate? There’s plenty of evidence showing intent, treason, fraud, etc.
Nov 9th....after she’s Trumped
Interesting. But wouldn’t an incoming president be able to challenge that legally? There wouldn’t be double jeopardy if the person hadn’t actually gone to trial.
Yeah I remember that now, thanks.
If Obama pardons her now, it will only hurt Hillary more and stain his legacy. Not going to happen.
challange a presidential pardon on what grounds?
http://www.democrats.com/the-presidents-un-pardon-power-is-unlimited-too
What did Marshall mean by “it may be controverted by the prosecutor, and must be expounded by the court”?
First, that a prosecutor can challenge the pardon in court. So if Bush illegally pardons himself for Federal crimes, a federal “prosecutor” - Obama’s Attorney General or his subordinate - can therefore challenge the illegal pardons in court on substantive Constitutional grounds, namely that the President’s pardon power does not include the power to self-pardon.
Second, that a court must consider the prosecutor’s challenge. The Supreme Court could not dismiss the case as a mere political dispute, but would have to determine whether or not the Founders granted the President the power to self-pardon.
As a former professor of Constitutional law, President Obama certainly understands that self-pardons are not only unconstitutional, but also a guarantee of future presidential lawlessness and dictatorship. If Bush issues one, it would be President Obama’s obligation to challenge it in court so it does not become a precedent for dictatorial lawlessness by himself or any future president.
http://www.democrats.com/files/brian-kalt-pardon-me.pdf
Even if this unlikely scenario had any validity, a pardon would not protect a President Hillary from impeachment, which she would surely face before finishing the Oath.
If they charge her at any time up to January 20, Obama can pardon her.
Obama’s goal is to be the top dog in the Demo-rat clique in DC. To achieve that, he has Lynch indict her via grand jury after election, before Trump’s inauguration. Then he pardons Hillary with certain conditions 1) neither Hillary or Bill or Chelsea can enter DC without his approval, 2) Hillary & Bill provide him all the FBI files and other blackmail data to his post-presidency staff, 3) A sizeable donation to the Obama Benevolent Initiative.
Sorry, the article doesn’t reflect reality:
1. The FBI charges no one.
2. Obama can pardon anyone for any federal crime - whether they have been charged or not - up to 12:00 P.M., EST, on 1/20/2017. If he wants to pardon her, he will, and nothing that the FBI does will stop that.
This is Bull.... Obama can’t pardon anyone that hasn’t been convicted. It will be a long process to get through all of the charges, then she gets convicted. Obama will be long gone.
Wonder what Cankle shackles look like? :-)
As far as a Nixon type pardon. There is a question if that was even legal or constitutional. If Obama tries it then I think that this time it will be challenged. Of course with the current crew in the supreme court.....
If Obama pre-pardons Hillary, I do think we need to reexamine that policy. It isn’t kosher. A president could prepardon ALL of his friends.
And Obama can pardon up to Inauguration Day, well after Nov 8.
FBI won't charge HRC before election because Obama will use power to pardon her. "If we release Weiner file before Nov. 8th she'll walk."
So he's going to pardon her before the election? Or he's going to use the election as a referendum on prosecution and if she wins he'll pardon her?
He could just issue a blanket pardon after the election whatever the prosecutor does. I really doubt Hillary's supporters think her being indicted on the eve of the election would be a plus for her campaign.
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