[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Pretty pale excuse for a touch screen if anyone wants one.

I read 16gb Max non upgradeable ram?, is that true?

Last years Hardware Specs?

I think Apple is getting out of the hardware business.

$4,300 topped out price, is that true?

[dfwgator]

I would think having a touch screen would sacrifice the resolution of the screen. Apple doesn’t want to go there, and I can see why.

[Swordmaker]

I read 16gb Max non upgradeable ram?, is that true?

True. If you need more RAM, you shouldn't be using a notebook. That isn't the platform you should be using for your work. Also Macs use far less RAM to accomplish the same amount of work than do PCs due to better memory handling.

I think Apple is getting out of the hardware business.

You think wrong.

$4,300 topped out price, is that true?

• Apple 15" MacBook Pro. — Intel® Core™ i7 2.90GHz (Quad-Core, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz, 8MB Cache) — 16GB 2133MHz memory — 2TB PCIe high performance Solid State Drive — Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB memory, capable of driving two independent 5K external monitors plus 15.4-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 2880-by-1800 native resolution at 220 pixels per inch with support for millions of colors — Backlit keyboard with Touch Bar with integrated Touch ID fingerprint sensor — 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, 3.5mm Audio port — Full productivity Software suite – 10 hour battery life, 87 Watt P/S. — $4,299

• Dell 15.6" Precision 15 5000 Series (5510). — Intel® Core™ i7 2.70GHz (Quad-Core, Turbo Boost up to 3.60GHz, 8MB cache) — 16GB 2133MHz memory — one 1TB PCIe high performance Solid State Drive — plus one 512GB high performance Solid State Drive — Nvidia® Quadro® M1000M w/2GB GDDR5 capable of driving two 4K external monitors plus 15.6" UHD IGZO(3840x2160) LED Touch Screen — Backlit keyboard — 1 Thunderbolt 3, 2 USB 3, HDMI, power ports, 3.5mm audio and SD card slot — Microsoft Productivity Software Suite plus Dell Recommended anti-virus and malware software, and Windows migration software — price $5,733.56 less incentive discounts = $4,028.70

The Dell XPS has lesser specs and does less and comes with quite a bit less software, but then it is $270.30 less expensive. . . for a machine with a slower processor, less storage, and a lame OS.

[bobcat62]

Part of the problem is Intel and their current mobile chipset offerings:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/31/intels-chip-design-not-apples-choices-reason-behind-thunderbolt-3-ram-issues-in-new-macbook-pro