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Good article and probably a good book. Here are two videos that are worth watching if you have never seen them:

Why You Should Never Talk To Police (1)

Why You Should Never Talk To Police (2)

1 posted on 10/20/2016 2:12:03 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Get your asbestos underwear on because the “COPS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!” crowd will be along any moment now to start calling you names because you dare to insiunate that their infallible heroes in black tactical gear would do anything wrong.


2 posted on 10/20/2016 2:20:07 PM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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Beat me to your postings. Good for all to review annually.

Watch old episodes of The Closer

3 posted on 10/20/2016 2:20:30 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Get my lawyer.


6 posted on 10/20/2016 2:25:01 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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Yes, the standard police strategy for obtaining confessions is basically a recipe for obtaining false confessions as well.


7 posted on 10/20/2016 2:28:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BBell

later


8 posted on 10/20/2016 2:29:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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"What did I do," Trainum asked himself, "to convince this person to tell me something she didn't do? How did she get all those details she shouldn't have known?"

Sixteen hours of interrogation might have something to do with it, genius.

10 posted on 10/20/2016 2:30:07 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Or watch “Making a Murderer”, and see what they cops did to Brendan Dassey.


11 posted on 10/20/2016 2:31:46 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Interesting read but why do I get the feeling the whole article was to take a shot at Trump?


12 posted on 10/20/2016 2:37:48 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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The pilot episode of Kojak “The Marcus-Nelson Murders” dealt with the premise in 1973.


16 posted on 10/20/2016 2:52:37 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 16 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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Bookmark


18 posted on 10/20/2016 2:55:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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19 posted on 10/20/2016 3:04:09 PM PDT by Daffynition (*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
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How honest is this author? One of the victims in the Starbucks murders in 1997 was Mary Mahoney, formerly a White House intern. There were two other people killed. There was $10,000 in cash that was not taken; in those days, Starbucks was mostly a cash business. The fact that the money was not taken would indicate robbery was not a motive.

In 1999, the Washington police department arrested one Carl Cooper for the killings. The Feds sought the death penalty even though the District of Columbia had repealed capital punishment. There are numerous homicides in DC, yet the Feds were considering overriding the District law in this case. Cooper plea bargained the charges to life imprisonment.

Keep in mind the murders occurred during the period of the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the Paula Jones lawsuit. Mary Mahoney was a lesbian activist, so unlike with Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton may not have been the predator. Hillary Clinton's sexual preferences are, shall we say, dubious based on anecdotal evidence.

It is probable Carl Cooper was set up to take the fall in the Starbucks murders. If the author helped frame him by obtaining a false, and perhaps coerced, confession, he is guilty of the tactics he reports on. There were no witnesses or forensic evidence tying the killings to a gun Cooper owned or possessed.

20 posted on 10/20/2016 3:07:25 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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I don’t get “8. Have them provide details of the crime.”

How is that possible if they didn’t do it?

I’m all for videotaping the entire confession process, although I would argue the admissability may vary. I would never say a damned thing without a lawyer present and a tape running.

Here’s what they don’t tell you: It says 15% of false convictions involve confessions. Well, 90% of all trials end in a plea. A plea includes a confession. A LOT of criminals plea to one crime to stay out of a trial over another crime, and that’s going to lead to a LOT of false confessions. But that doesn’t mean the defendant is innocent. So that stat doesn’t really impress me. And how many times does “false confession” mean the confession was proven to be false, versus simply on a re-hearing, with newly excluded evidence, a jury failed to reach a verdict?

Also, James Trainum is not only selling his book, but also his interrogation consulting services. Let that sink in.

As for PEACE, what the article neglects to mention is that in the U.K., there is no right against self-incrimination. Failure to cooperate fully can lead to a presumption of guilt.

Know what? If I’m on a jury and a defendant told me he made a false confession because he was told he was going to get life or the death penalty, and was promised he could get plea out for 3rd-degree manslaughter, I’m open to his claim.


22 posted on 10/20/2016 3:12:27 PM PDT by dangus
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That guy has a book out now, “You Have The Right To Remain Innocent”. I’ll give away a spoiler he teases in one of his videos:

One of the tricks the cops use is to phrase a statement or a question so that you make an assumption from it that is correct 99.9% of the time. Then they say, aha!, we never actually told him that! Only the murderer would know that!

They pull this a lot on murder cases. The community has been beating the bushes for a week, divers have been in the town lake for the last three days, the candlelight vigil has been held, but let the spouse speak of the deceased in the past tense one time, and aha!, we never said we were certain his wife was dead!


24 posted on 10/20/2016 3:22:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Trump is right on the Central Park 5.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/224068/what-media-wont-tell-you-about-central-park-five-ann-coulter
25 posted on 10/20/2016 3:32:23 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Chicagoland had 2 concurrent textbook cases. Dem States Atty framed the Chicago Heigts 7 in Crook County and GOP establishment States Atty Jim Ryan (no relation to the other GOP Ryans) in Dupage County.

Jim Ryan&Co frequently paid a snitch Rolando Cruz, a petty thief, pothead and embarrassment to the human race. But Cruz was not a murderer. Cruz was also a pathetic liar. He was no good on the witness stand pointing at the defendant.

And Jim Ryan had a murder of a little girl he had to solve before election day to prove that an establishment haack was a law-n-order conservative. So he conveniently framed Rolando Cruz, knowing Cruz wais a pathetic liar and would be easy to convict.

Lesson: It’s always smart for an ambitious person to have a fall guy, a scapegoat, close at hand. And pick someone who can’t mount a good defense. <;)>


27 posted on 10/20/2016 4:12:05 PM PDT by spintreebob
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