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I sat down and USED MacPaint on a shipped Macintosh 128 in March 1984, Thank you. It worked as advertised. The software would DO EXACTLY THAT HELLO. Yes, there were some bugs on the demo day, even the voice was a bit iffy. . . but we are NOT talking about the Chinese woman drawing. We are talking about the "Hello" image that anyone could write out using the MOUSE on a shipped Macintosh using MacPaint that was available on day one. SHEESH!

Yeah, and WHY did you write "hello"? Because you saw it on the MacPaint box, manuals, flyers, posters and intro video? Really? So WHEN was it made?

1983.

That's why that graphic was ready for the rollout in 1984.

In other words (because you can't seem to grasp this), the "hello" graphic was made BEFORE MacPaint shipped. ON A LISA. Because that's where MacPaint was DEVELOPED. Just because you could make "hello" WHEN it shipped doesn't mean anything - you were SUPPOSED to be able to make it when it shipped!

SHEESH!

Yeah, and WHY did you write "hello"? Because you saw it on the MacPaint box, manuals, flyers, posters and intro video? Really? So WHEN was it made?

1983.

No, Talisker, it's YOU who still doesn't get it. The original point was that this "could not have been drawn on a computer in 1984" and my point was that on the contrary it could and was easily done with MacPaint, as shipped with the FIRST Macintosh. . . It's irrelevant whether the Lisa was involved in creating MacPaint or that drawing in 1983, the FACT is the Macintosh 128 could do it in February of 1984 when it shipped as one continuous written line!

Now you can jump up and down all you like, claiming anything you want about ad copy, box printing, etc, but that does not change the FACT the 68000 processor driven Macintosh 128 using MacPaint in February 1984 could create that image. Period.

Incidentally, I said I did NOT write "hello," but that I created something else which had nothing to do with what I saw in an ad, on the box or elsewhere.

You are arguing a point without a purpose!