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Are Ouija boards an ‘Origin of Evil’?
http://aleteia.org ^ | 10/18/2016 | Philip Kosloski

Posted on 10/18/2016 7:08:08 AM PDT by heterosupremacist

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To: heterosupremacist

How oijia boards work:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130729-what-makes-the-ouija-board-move


21 posted on 10/18/2016 7:46:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: heterosupremacist

My aunt during WW II used one to find out what her husband was doing in Europe and where he was stationed. She wrote the answers down and when he got home it was quite accurate. I think her and her sisters actually made the board and put a glass on a plate of glass that had been dampened.

On the flip side, before I got married my girlfriend at the time and friends held a seance. It was all fun and games, as this Gf was supposed to be writing down the communications. Long story short, she started talking in a “weird” manner, when someone asked her to write it down, she grunted and bent a bic pen in half without breaking it. Everyone was scared and avoided her for days.

There are things we don’t understand out there, and DON’T mess around with spirits..


22 posted on 10/18/2016 7:49:06 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: heterosupremacist

Always use a faraday cage when using one, unless you want to get posessed...


23 posted on 10/18/2016 7:56:04 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: GraceG

I remember spending the night at my parent’s house. First time in years. I said I slept good and mentioned I never used to because I sense a presence in my room. My mother said “someone from the church came by and took the Qujia Board away”. She knew what I meant. Never felt the resident evil again.


24 posted on 10/18/2016 8:02:11 AM PDT by MGG
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To: heterosupremacist
Back in the 1970’s, my daughter had a friend across the street. She went over to play one day but she came back. It wasn't until a few years ago she told me why. She that she had gotten a very bad feeling over there. She said her friend and her sisters played with those things. At least she had sense enough to not get involved.
25 posted on 10/18/2016 8:02:50 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: heterosupremacist
I'm still interested in the 1949 case. Blatty's fictionalized treatment of it is wildly sensationalized, but there was an underlying case involving a young teenage boy in the Maryland suburbs of DC. Apparently he was a difficult kid and, though he went on to lead a reportedly normal life after the exorcism, he has never been willing to cooperate with investigators. He would be in his 80's now if still alive.

As I understand it, the official records have never been released, and cannot be without the consent of the subject. Blatty apparently saw some brief notes written up by an attending priest (sometimes referred to as the "diary") and spoke to a couple of people involved in the case. Most of the story, he simply made up. (He was an English major at Georgetown at the time of the case, and hoped to make a career as a creative writer/novelist/whatever. He read about the case in the newspaper and saw a story idea.) The really lurid stuff in the book and the movie is pure fiction. Independently of Blatty, there is also gossip and hearsay from people who were around at the time. The case is still part of neighborhood lore; people who grew up in Cottage City, Mount Ranier, and Bladensburg -- and I've met several -- know about it from local legend (which is now commingled with movie lore in local "memory"). But the official medical and canonical records, whatever they may have been, have not been opened.

This intrigues me because this case occurred in the DC area. We are not dealing here with Father O'Gullible in the back of beyond improvising in something way above his pay grade. Catholic University, with its collection of assorted seminaries, was less than two miles away. It would strike me as extraordinary for such a case to happen in CU's backyard and for no one to drive over to evaluate it. (Or more likely, to be called in to consult.) The first exorcism was attempted at Georgetown University Hospital, so the medical and psychiatric staff as well as the exorcists would have had a look at the patient as well. The GU exorcism failed, so the mother took the kid to St. Louis, where a second, prolonged exorcism ultimately succeeded. Since the Catholic Church has a protocol for authorizing exorcisms, this means that a second set of eyes in a different diocese and reporting to a different bishop also signed off.

The professional skeptics will argue that (1) mentally ill people often produce quite dramatic symptoms, with no supernatural causes, that can fool unwary observers and that (2) some patients deliberately trick observers, and that some of them are very, very clever in how they do so. I am sure that both these things are true. In this case, however, the patient was a 12 year old boy when the symptoms began. He was 13 at the time of the second exorcism. He was in the backyard of Catholic Central; he was seen by the staff of a well-regarded teaching hospital; and he was evaluated independently by an independent team in St. Louis. The Catholics may have been much more casual about exorcisms then than now, or perhaps they were just careless in this case. But this would seem to be a case where the official records would be worth a good look, if they still exist.

As an aside, the boy's family was Lutheran, not Catholic. The dad apparently never believed he was possessed; it was the (perhaps hysterical) mother who was convinced. He had been expelled from Bladensburg Jr. High for bad behavior; I've never seen any investigation of what the teachers, principal, and school district officials may have thought. The family consulted first with their doctor, who was stumped, and their Lutheran pastor, who was stumped. The Lutheran pastor referred them to the priest at the neighborhood Catholic Church on the theory that the Catholics were the experts on exorcism. That's a referral I'd like to know more about as well; one would think a Lutheran pastor would call in a Lutheran consultant first, before defaulting to the papists down the street.

Since you're wondering, the famous Georgetown steps had nothing to do with the case. Blatty threw them in as an atmospheric touch to an entirely fictional murder. No one died in the real case.

26 posted on 10/18/2016 8:03:41 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: heterosupremacist

They are pieces of wood no more good nor evil than any other including any shaped into a pagan idol. Like an idol they were crafted to facilitate an unhealthy practice. The origin of evil is spiritual pride, not wood, nor rock, nor metal.


27 posted on 10/18/2016 8:04:23 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

[They are pieces of wood no more good nor evil than any other including any shaped into a pagan idol. Like an idol they were crafted to facilitate an unhealthy practice. The origin of evil is spiritual pride, not wood, nor rock, nor metal.]

Do not give place to the devil. OUIJA BOARDS are evil.


28 posted on 10/18/2016 8:25:07 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: little jeremiah

“Once when we played, right away the message appeared:

God is love.”

While the statement is a profound truth, it is virtually impossible to discern the motive of the source.

Imagine if you came to me and I told you the details of who would contact you and what they would say for the rest of the day. You, being a skeptic left unconvinced, but when your day unfolded exactly as I told you, you began to believe me.

So I told you exactly who would contact you the next day and what they would say, and it too happened.

After two days of accurate details, you were a believer in me. and now that you have surrendered your individual will or control of yourself to me, I tell you that something really bad is going to happen to you the next day unless you do exactly what I say!

That is how dark spirits imitate the light to suck us in. Without discernment, it is very dangerous. The best discernment is to accept Christ and be filled with the Holy Spirit.


29 posted on 10/18/2016 8:29:32 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: bgill

The Ouija board came out in 1928.

In the factory, they would be making them, not using them.

When my sister was in college, some girls were playing with a Ouija board, and got a cold spot in their room. One of the Jesuits came and sprinkled some holy water around, and read them the riot act.


30 posted on 10/18/2016 8:29:44 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Ransomed

Product Description:
“Enter the world of the mysterious and mystifying with the Ouija board! You’ve got questions and the spirit world has answers - and the uncanny Ouija board is your way to get them! What do you want to know? Ask your question with a friend using the planchette that comes with the board, but be patient and concentrate because the spirits can’t be rushed. Handle the Ouija board with respect and it won’t disappoint you!

Includes gameboard, planchette and instructions

Ages 8 and up.

Ouija and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.”

I wonder what the instructions say. I also didn’t know the doodad that moves is called a planchette.

FReegards


31 posted on 10/18/2016 8:30:38 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: heterosupremacist

James Merrill won a Pulitzer prize in the 1970s for poems he said were dictated to him through the Ouija board.

Talk about ghost writer.


32 posted on 10/18/2016 8:37:55 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: sphinx

My father knew Fr. Hughes, the local parish priest in Mt. Rainier, who was very young, and had no experience doing exorcisms. Archbishop O’Boyle, also young and naïve, gave him permission to perform an exorcism, which was very imprudent. Hughes is the priest who was gouged in the leg by the boy, using a bed spring. He nearly bled to death, and limped the rest of his life. He described being at the house; dinner was on the table, steaming hot, and before anyone went into the dining room, the table rose in the air and tipped upside down.


33 posted on 10/18/2016 8:42:12 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: heterosupremacist
Hasbro board meeting to celebrate the ownership of souls.


34 posted on 10/18/2016 8:42:20 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
Good one!

And Goya's Witches' Sabbath:


35 posted on 10/18/2016 8:49:25 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: georgiegirl

Oui: yes
Ja: yes


36 posted on 10/18/2016 8:50:06 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Ransomed

What you have to do is invoke a spirit.


37 posted on 10/18/2016 8:53:20 AM PDT by goldi
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To: heterosupremacist

I was aquainted with a man in the 1980s who, as a young teen in the late 1950s, had played with a Ouija board with 2 teen boy cousins. The 3 of them were visiting their grandparents in a house without electricity.

The boys were laughing and talking dirty as they conversed with “a whore living in Hell”. The 3 of them had to share a bed at this house, and, later that night, when they went to bed the bed began shaking. They kept accusing one another of shaking it.

Eventually, they were able to settle down and go to sleep. This man forgot all about the incident until years later when he watched the movie “The Exorcist”. He immediately called the cousins, both of whom insisted they had not been shaking the bed.


38 posted on 10/18/2016 9:01:56 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: bgill

The material of the board itself is not inherently evil, the act of divination is. You could attempt to communicate with the dead using almost anything — one of the ancient Greek philosophers (Can’t remember which, Plato maybe?) recorded using a table to as a divination tool, the table sliding around the room in answer to questions. Obviously tables aren’t evil, but again, the act of divination is.


39 posted on 10/18/2016 9:11:04 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: gdani
"As much as any other board game stamped "Parker Brothers" I suppose it's only a matter of time before Monopoly is branded an origin of evil capitalism. Or Risk is called an origin of evil imperialism."

As someone else here said, apples and oranges. Divination is forbidden by God through Scripture. The objective of using a ouija board is to communicate with the other side. The objective of monopoly is to amass fake money within the reference frame of a game for an hour or two. One is nothing like the other.

40 posted on 10/18/2016 9:16:34 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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