Posted on 10/16/2016 1:05:53 PM PDT by heterosupremacist
“We’ve had Muslims in American since George Washington.” So claimed Hillary Clinton during the second presidential debate. This was part of her response to Donald Trump’s proposed temporary ban on Muslim immigration, which appears to have metamorphosed into “extreme vetting.”
Some analysts trotted out the familiar lines about Muhammad Hamilton and Abdullah Hancock. At the risk of stating something I may not have stated before, Mrs. Clinton was right. Muslims who had been enslaved by other Muslims (against the dictates of Islam not to enslave fellow believers), as well as Muslims kidnapped and press-ganged into slavery by non-Muslims, were enslaved in the US at the time of the Founding.
Like many others I found her comment strange in isolation, as a defense against Mr. Trump’s previously proposed ban. Many things have been around for a long time. Some are good. Some are bad. Some we want more of, some less. The relevant question isn’t whether Islam and Muslims have been in America since the time of Washington, but what their presence has brought to America..."
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Sylvia Diouf’s Servants of Allah: African Muslims Enslaved in the Americas is replete with other examples of Muslim slaves’ supremacist attitudes towards non-Muslims. Of course, Ms. Diouf makes her position as one of the 36 liberal historians clear by whitewashing the true reason for Muslim slaves’ self-perceived superiority over non-Muslims, hiding the real reason behind a fog of potential other factors: their high levels of literacy, for instance (although it is not clear if that literacy extended beyond the ability to read and write verses of the Qur’an in Arabic). It is clear to anyone familiar with Islam what the motivation was behind calling Christians dogs.
Islam brought more that was bad, importing supremacist attitudes reeking of dhimmitude that rival anything Jim Crow served up many years later.
In addition to slavery and hatred of non-Muslims, what else did Islam and Muslims bring to the US during the time of the Founding? Our encounter with the swashbuckling Muslims of North Africa, the Barbary Pirates, began in 1784, when the pirates first captured a US-flagged merchant ship and began enslaving Christian sailors. Over several decades, the US government paid a regular series of tributes, rightly thought of as waterborne jizya, to the Barbary States..."
Well yeah, many Muslims captured other Muslims and sold them into slavery.
About the only contribution I can think of, offhand, of muslims to America is that they provided the history behind a segment of the Marine Corps hymn.
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Extremely few.
There is always an odd case or two, somewhere.
Probably most were actually black slaves, odds are a few would have professed Islam of some sort. These people were traded long distances across that continent.
The Mother Mosque of America, once known as The Rose of Fraternity Lodge and also known as Moslem Temple, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, United States, is the longest standing mosque in North America. Built in 1934, it is the second oldest after the mosque built in tiny Ross, North Dakota, which was built in 1929
Let's hope that in 2017 the last one is started.
GW was the first Muslim?
Slaves who were identifiable as Muslim were rare enough that they were considered somewhat as celebrities (as Omar ibn Said). There is an absolute falsification of American history going on. The victors write the history books.
They kidnapped people from as far away as Ireland and brought them to Africa as slaves, in addition to taking them off of ships.
Mb>Barbary slave trade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million white Christian Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people which were enslaved by Morocco and by other ...
Lots of things have gone on in history, some of them good, most of them not so good. Some of the pirates that operated around the east coast and Bahamas in the early 1700's were from N.Africa and were nominal Muslims (just as other pirates were nominal Christians). Because there were pirates operating in an around America doesn't mean we should brag that "there were pirates in America from the beginning" as if that has any relevance to anything.
When she said this I texted my sister that I didn’t know George Washington was muslim
SHORT SUMMARY OF ISLAM CONQUEST by WILLIAM FEDERER
https://www.c-span.org/video/?314071-10/every-american-needs-know-quran&buy=
Short and to the point, complete with visuals. Copy the link and share it with everyone you know.
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At the time of the founding of this country there were more White Christian European and Americans enslaved in N Africa and the ME by muslims than there were black africans enslaved in the US.
Every ethnic and religious group tries at some point to establish their presence in early American history.
And the first Armenians or Russians or Poles or Italians or Danes here weren't Founding Fathers either.
He was a Freemason.
Hillary has forgotten that Washington’s successor, John Adams, had signed the Treaty of Tripoly into law because Muslims in North Africa were attacking American ships.
Ann now Hillary is ignoring that corrupt Congress is allowing radical Muslims to get away with attacking citizens in the homeland.
Corrections, insights welcome.
Trump can’t make Mexico pay for a border wall soon enough.
Nearly all slaves in America worshiped as Christians.
No voodoo, no Santeria, and especially no Islam.
Show us the ruins of two hundred year old mosques used by slaves.
Strange but true. George “Mohammed” Washington was indeed the first MOOslim preident. And Thomas “Achmed” Jefferson was called “Achy” by close friends.
I’m sure there were probably a couple of Muslims around back then, but it was a few individuals finding themselves far away from their homelands rather than a sizeable demographic.
There were probably a couple of people from just about everywhere in the early American frontier.
The first meaningful relationship we had with the Muslims was refusing to pay naval tribute and sending whatshisname (edit: William Eaton, awesome story for anyone who hasn’t read it yet) to take care of it. It’s all in the book The Pirate Coast by Richard Zachs, strongly recommended.
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