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This article is several months old but the research is state of the art in the ME/CFS world.

A long sought possible diagnostic marker for this illness may have been found, in this case in 83% of the sample.

1 posted on 09/17/2016 6:07:36 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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it suggests that diet and things like probiotics may be a way to help treat the disease by getting the gut microbiome back in balance.

I read somewhere that fermented foods work better than probiotic pills.

Mmmm...unfiltered beer.

2 posted on 09/17/2016 6:12:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Seizethecarp; Salamander

Last year I was plagued with recurrent infections.
I ended up with several hospital stays and IV antibiotics.
Follow up included extended use of oral antibiotics as well.

To avoid intestinal problems I started taking probiotics.
I continued to augment with probiotic after the antibiotic courses were finished.

I am still taking them and I notice that if I miss even as
little as a week of the probiotic my energy level drops precipitously.

Thus it is easy for me to believe that a deficiency in
the proper microbe balance could cause serious fatigue.


3 posted on 09/17/2016 6:19:26 PM PDT by shibumi (Dancin in the Dark with Tramps in the Park, I'm the Fleetfoot VooDoo Man)
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BFL


4 posted on 09/17/2016 6:29:40 PM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Monkey Face

Intestinal bugs!


5 posted on 09/17/2016 6:33:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s amazing how much Michele Akers accomplished as part of the US Women National Team over years, while combating cronic fatigue! She was a warrior!


7 posted on 09/17/2016 6:44:42 PM PDT by winner3000
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I tend to believe that a lot of what appear to be psychological problems have more mundane physiological origin.
8 posted on 09/17/2016 6:45:11 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater)
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Good info. So many conditions are affected (if not caused) by the gut bug population. So easy to remedy by feeding the bugs the probiotics they need, and helping the population along by eating things grown in healthy soil, by eating fermented veggies and other foods.

By the way, it might be interesting to note that some of the healthiest peoples of the world with great natural diets both plant and animal, actually don’t have “the most diverse” gut bugs. Like real life, it isn’t the DIVERSITY that counts, but the quality of bacteria themselves! :)


9 posted on 09/17/2016 6:48:01 PM PDT by Yaelle (If you like Hillary, you are not allowed to dislike Bernie Madoff.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Caprylic acid.


18 posted on 09/17/2016 7:07:52 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Good info here.


22 posted on 09/17/2016 7:27:02 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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KOMBUCHA

KEIFER

Jerusalem Artichoke powder

Chicory root powder


23 posted on 09/17/2016 7:37:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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Didn’t somebody just name one of those things after Obama?


24 posted on 09/17/2016 7:48:57 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Parasites in all sizes are the Cause of leaky gut and such chronic conditions at FM/CFS, Crohns, IBS, etc...

Probiotics help, but you have to kill the dragons first. We have spent years taking expensive supplements and probiotics only to discover that we had illegal aliens taking everything from us, leaving only leftovers. Helminths love multi-B vitamins, especially B-12.

Go to www.humaworm.com and read the testimonials there with regard to FM/CFS.

We worm our dogs, cats, horses, goats....but do we ever stop to consider that we, who are at the top fo the food chain, never consider that periodic parasite maintenance might be in order?


26 posted on 09/17/2016 8:12:58 PM PDT by blackpacific
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I can say from personal knowledge that TBI causes MANY of the symptoms of CFS, including the gut ones.

Wouldn’t that lean towards a nervous system dysfunction?


29 posted on 09/17/2016 8:18:22 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Personally I believe it is the MSG and high fructose corn syrup, BPA, Soybean oil, enriched flour (fake flour), fake sugars, etc.

Whenever I eat food with these ingredients I get tired. I can avoid this by eating foods that hopefully do not have this stuff in it but products like MSG are known by over 100 names as the manufacturers know it is bad and so hide it.


30 posted on 09/17/2016 9:27:33 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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44 posted on 09/21/2016 8:29:45 PM PDT by xp38
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