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But yet, is a stereotype a stereotype if indeed it is true.

In general a doctor is more likely to be a male than a female by 2:1

And, a nurse is more likely to be a female than a male by 9.5:1

Thus a random pair up of a Jonathan and an Elizabeth walking to a hospital room, are more likely to be Doctor and Nurse than the reverse?

http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/physicians-by-gender/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/human-capital-and-risk/gender-ratio-of-nurses-across-50-states.html

1 posted on 09/15/2016 11:04:32 AM PDT by garyb
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That can’t be right. On TV nearly all Dr.’s are female and Black females at that.

The few male Dr.’s are also Black or some minority.


2 posted on 09/15/2016 11:08:55 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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I remember a few years ago, one of my daughters, she was like 6 or maybe 7, heard someone described as a “Male Nurse.”

She was howling with laughter, and kept repeating, “A male nurse!” as if that whole idea was completely preposterous!

Which was itself hilarious, b/c we had certainly never said anything like that around her. Somehow she just got the vibe that men are doctors, and women are nurses. And a male nurse is some kind of freak show!


3 posted on 09/15/2016 11:14:35 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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Heck, I would still prefer that nurses dress like nurses, so we can tell them apart from orderlies, physician’s assistants, etc.


4 posted on 09/15/2016 11:15:02 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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I admit that I struggle with the concept of “male nurse.” It must because the noun is also a verb ... a very feminine verb.


5 posted on 09/15/2016 11:15:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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The stereotype acts like a "mental firewall" that seems to prevent people from updating their subconscious attitudes with the facts, said Jack Cao, a graduate student in psychology at Harvard University in Massachusetts.

Seems this Jack Cao has a mental firewall about facts.

If people have a subconscious anticipation of the male being more likely to be the doctor and the female the nurse, its because this fits the experience people have and forms an expectation. This is not any kind of fault of the person, its just the way that the irrational part of our mind works to form expectations for us. People do not go around all day reasoning out every expectation in our daily lives....we simply expect some things to be a certain way without thinking as we concentrate on the things that have our attention. When something is different than this expectations, then it grabs our attention and we attend to it.

To the extent people tell a researcher after thinking about it that either is equally likely to be a doctor or nurse it is because they are being trained to either be dishonest or use unsound reason or judgement for the sake of social pressure....this is the real "mental firewall" here.

11 posted on 09/15/2016 11:21:33 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)
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Nobody complains when we assume a janitor or trash collector is male.
I know full well both women and men can be found in almost any profession but as long as the probability is significantly more than 50%, I will assume, for the sake of expediency, that Doctor is probably Male, Nurse is probably Female but I won't be surprised or upset when I'm wrong.

16 posted on 09/15/2016 11:27:33 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Why is breastfeeding called "nursing" a baby, and not "doctoring" a baby?

-PJ

17 posted on 09/15/2016 11:28:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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I think psychologists place far too much emphasis on cultural conditioning as a determinative factor in this sort of decision. If it’s a function of simple observation, it isn’t a stereotype. If I see ten male cops and one female, and someone asks me the same question, I’m going to guess that the unknown cop is a male, not because I’m making a sexist assumption that all cops have to be male but because most of them actually are.


18 posted on 09/15/2016 11:34:36 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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It’s not a stereotype, idiot. A higher percentage of doctors are men, and a higher percentage of nurses are women. Undeniable fact.
Same with suicide bombers, rapists, and murderers. The mind is not prejudiced - it’s just acting on observed events.


19 posted on 09/15/2016 11:37:25 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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I somehow suspect Gunilla Hutton cemented the association in my, ahem, youthful (at the time) mind.


22 posted on 09/15/2016 11:50:25 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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My last visit to the hospital would have been.

Who is the doctor and who is the nurse?
Sanjay and Sheniqua


27 posted on 09/15/2016 12:16:04 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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I was going to post those numbers, but you beat me to it. Liberals are morons or worse. My guess is they know better but they lie because they are evil.


35 posted on 09/15/2016 3:06:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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