Posted on 08/25/2016 10:47:18 PM PDT by Morgana
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- On the day a girl was going to celebrate her 10th birthday, she was found dead in her family's apartment by Albuquerque police officers, her dismembered remains wrapped in a burning blanket.
Details of what Gov. Susana Martinez and law enforcement officials described as an unspeakable crime emerged Thursday in a criminal complaint made public and filed against the girl's mother, her boyfriend and his cousin. The three were taken into custody late Wednesday night.
Police say the girl was injected with methamphetamine, sexually assaulted, strangled and stabbed before being dismembered. They did not identify her because authorities were still trying Thursday to reach some relatives to notify them of the girl's death.
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No death penalty in NM.
Guns alter my mental state
When I need one and I’m heeled
I feel a LOT better mentally....altered
Let’s just cut to the chase.....the Drug Warriors on this forum want to take horrible crazed methhead atrocities that no one is defending to use as a tool to justify marijuana criminalization and minmans and LEO wandering powers and RICO conviction less confiscations etc that they applaud making us all safer from their statist perspective
No one here with half a brain would or should defend amphetamine abuse...and anyone who does should be challenged
But I guarantee I can find some horrible crime against a child perpetrated by drunks ....probably far more actually given I think it’s accurate to assume we have more drunks than “shadow people” in this country yet drug warriors never mention it
A little more than that buddy.
You have vision grasshopper
My third favorite cable drama series after
Sopranos and Game of Thrones .....
ok thanks for the correction. Stuff like this is depressing. it is tough to think about and now I have an image of the young girl in my head. Prayers for her eternal soul.
And dimwits can’t tell the difference between a behavior altering drug known for the violent behavior of its users and a gun.
The land of logic, that terra incognita that awaits your discovery.
They were already bad people. They didn’t need ‘drugs’ to influence their bad behavior. Good luck to ya.
I hope you get to live in a place where all your surrounding neighbors are using heavy drugs like meth, crack and heroin.
I’ve been there. Your tune would change about drug use very quickly. Drugs turn some people into psychological basket cases and then this kind of shit happens to innocent people like this little girl.
To draw comparison with guns is ridiculous. Guns are used for self defense. How are drugs used for self defense? Drugs and addiction turns some people into animals. Guns don’t, but mix a drug addict and a gun and Voila’, bad shit happens.
You may have a point. I don’t think I agree. I was stationed in the Netherlands and saw the damage caused by a tolerant society of drugs. Parks over run with drug user, bus station unsafe, having to walk my kids to the bus stop to make sure they avoided syringes. Now I live in WA. Another society that is tolerant of drugs, and I can tell you all is not roses.
So that is a discussion we can have. But my comment was about another poster saying guns and drugs are the same argument and they are not.
People will hurt and harm people with or without drugs. Like the people who killed this poor child. I blame them, not the drugs. Just as I blame the individual and not society for the problems in this world. Good luck to ya.
I love ABQ, even after having watched the hyper-realistic shows Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, both of which are set and filmed there.
Reading the stories here on FR of what happened to this beautiful 10 year old ABQ girl just breaks my heart.
In the 1700s England had a major problem with ‘penny gin’. Brits could and did get drunk and stayed drunk for next to nothing, and it resulted in all of the social problems that go with widespread alcoholism. Their solution was the Gin Act, which required gin sellers to be licensed, and it made gin more expensive. It didn’t get rid of gin but gin consumption fell dramatically and so did the social problems that went with it. Meth has even less going for it than gin. It’s not a surprise to find crazy and violent behavior done by tweakers.
I don’t know if you’ve been there around hardcore druggies like I have. I think if you see what hard drugs do to otherwise good people you may have a different perspective. It changes them and never for the good. Legalizing drugs will not change the devastation it does to some people psychologically.
I never want to be around drug users anymore. They suck.
meth, heroin, cocaine destroy all they touch
Reread my post...you’re asking me to defend positions I did not take but rather what you assume I must believe
I was quite clear in denouncing meth abuse
I oppose the heavy handedness and overreach of the drug war....bigtime....especially asset seizures minus proof and draconian min mans
I am in favor of marijuana medical cards not recreational open market but that’s it....everything else illegal in some fashion unless medically indicated
I think alcohol is a fooking scourge that wreaks havoc yet it’s loved and exalted
That’s pretty concise....not much more to extrapolate from that
I too have lived all over the world and have business in Colorado where I travel a lot so I get it....I’ve written here about it....the scuzzy hipster pot Mecca quotient in Denver....
Washington state doesn’t have the pot draw Colorado does and it’s heavier regulated than Colorado
But make to my point do you get as worked up about the nearly 3000 alcohol related deaths in Washington state in 2013?
Compared to how many pot overdoses?
Should we ban alcohol....wouldn’t bother me in principle
Lets seize all of Olympia Beers assets while we’re at it.....I mean why not....it’s a danger...a proven one
It isn’t a ridiculous comparison.
The comparison between guns and drugs is that they are both inanimate objects. Neither of them are capable of doing anything on their own.
To blame a gun for a crime is ridiculous.
To blame a drug for a crime is ridiculous.
People commit crimes. A person decides to do something heinous, and then they do it.
People committed this crime. Meth did not commit this crime.
Now, is it possible that meth use, even a single time, the first time, can influence a person’s thought process in such a way that a crime is committed as a result of that thought process? Yes, it most certainly can. Meth use can cause hallucinations, paranoia and psychosis. It is obviously a very dangerous drug.
Similarly, can a gun influence a person’s thought process in such a way that a crime is committed as a result of that thought process? Yes. Certainly, if a person is angry enough at another person, and then think hey, I’ve got a gun, why don’t I just go over there and shoot that person? Bang, dead. Has happened before, will happen again.
But in either scenario, the responsible party is the person who decided to commit a crime. The meth is not ultimately responsible for the decision, the gun is not ultimately responsible for the decision. The sentient being who knows right from wrong is responsible for the decision. They will answer to God, not the meth, not the gun.
For the record, I do not support the legalization of meth. That is some dangerous, bad ass sh*t. I have never done meth, and I have never known any meth addicts, at least none who told me or revealed to me that they were such.
However, it should also be noted, the the law against meth did not stop these people from using meth or committing this crime, nor did the law against rape or murder, so I really don’t know what the answer here is, or even if there is one. Bad things happen in this world, and some people are really evil.
What a beautiful little girl. God bless and keep her. Man, that picture makes me very sad.
I think Dr. Laura would disapprove of calling this vermin a “Mom.”
And when arrested, they commonly say, “Who cares? It wasn’t mine.”
“They were already bad people. They didn’t need ‘drugs’ to influence their bad behavior. Good luck to ya.”
The reality is that you have no idea of what these people were like before they began abusing meth, but you want to believe that you and your Magic 8 Ball have that ability. Well “good luck to ya”.
Drugs alter people’s thinking and their behavior as most anyone who has dealt with drug abusers know all too well.
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