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To: ETL

Well, what you talk about doesn’t actually violate relativity, since you are dealing with different reference frames, such as the old thought experiment with two ships leaving earth in opposite directions, each traveling 0.9c. If you imagine a stationary observer with a universal reference frame, it seems to violate relativity, but there is no universal reference frame in relativity, so it’s just an illusion of a violation.

On the other hand, acceleration requiring a force isn’t a principle that varies with reference frames or depends on relativity. It’s simply basic mechanics. Something is accelerating the matter in the universe, and it doesn’t matter how that acceleration is transmitted, through the expansion of space or otherwise, it still requires a force.


88 posted on 08/25/2016 12:54:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Something is accelerating the matter in the universe

Not true, at least according to theory. It is space-time itself that is expanding or accelerating. The objects (galaxies, etc), although moving further apart with time, are not actually moving *through* space but rather remaining where they are, outside of local gravitational movements/interactions.

91 posted on 08/25/2016 1:07:30 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...ASAP)
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To: Boogieman

How Can Galaxies Recede Faster than the Speed of Light?

Dec 2015
by Fraser Cain

Question: How Can Galaxies Move Away Faster Than Speed of Light?

Answer: Einstein’s Theory of Relativity says that the speed of light – 300,000 km/s – is the maximum speed that anything can travel in the Universe. It requires more and more energy to approach the speed of light. You could use up all the energy in the Universe and still not be traveling at light speed.

As you know, most of the galaxies in the Universe are expanding away from us because of the Big Bang, and the subsequent effects of dark energy, which is providing an additional accelerating force on the expansion of the Universe.

Galaxies, like our own Milky Way are carried along by the expansion of the Universe, and will move apart from every other galaxy, unless they’re close enough to hold together with gravity.

As you look at galaxies further and further away, they appear to be moving faster and faster away from us. And it is possible that they could eventually appear to be moving away from us faster than light. At that point, light leaving the distant galaxy would never reach us.

When that happens, the distant galaxy would just fade away as the last of the photons reached Earth, and then we would never know it was ever there.

This sounds like it breaks Einstein’s theories, but it doesn’t. The galaxies themselves aren’t actually moving very quickly through space, it’s the space itself which is expanding away, and the galaxy is being carried along with it. As long as the galaxy doesn’t try to move quickly through space, no physical laws are broken.

One sad side effect of this expansion is that most of the galaxies will have receded over this horizon in about 3 trillion years, and future cosmologists will never know there’s a great big Universe out there.

You can read more about this in an article I did called the End of Everything.

http://www.universetoday.com/13808/how-can-galaxies-recede-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/#

92 posted on 08/25/2016 1:10:51 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...ASAP)
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