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Swanky San Francisco high-rise sinking, tilting (AKa the leaning high-rise of S.F)
Fox News.com ^ | August 1, 2016

Posted on 08/02/2016 7:35:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: PanzerKardinal
I wondered about that.
21 posted on 08/02/2016 8:31:02 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rdl6989
I can’t believe a building inspector allowed this, especially in earthquake country.

Not sure how they got away with not anchoring such a large building to bedrock. They must have bribed some city officials.

22 posted on 08/02/2016 8:31:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Kaslin

The geologists who approved this project should be shot.


23 posted on 08/02/2016 8:34:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: PAR35
The ‘experts’ claimed it was just an optical illusion.

A simple bubble level could have proved them wrong. Even used as a plumb bob.

Of course, a laser...

24 posted on 08/02/2016 8:36:06 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ilovesarah2012

——sunk 16 inches and shifted 2 inches to the northwest-—

When viewed from the Pacific ocean, it is left leaning

When the Bigg’un comes, the building will come toppling down.

By failing to stabilize their neighbors foundation, the Transit folks are in very expensive and big trouble


25 posted on 08/02/2016 8:40:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Calvin Locke

Check out the 4th (and 2nd) picture from the top on this site:

http://www.atlantatimemachine.com/downtown/c_and_s.htm


26 posted on 08/02/2016 8:45:28 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: rdl6989

allowed what?


27 posted on 08/02/2016 8:52:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: rdl6989

“I can’t believe a building inspector allowed this, especially in earthquake country.”

I’m $ure the $an Franci$co building in$pector$ were very thorough in their $ei$mic in$pection$ and that they dotted every “I” and cro$$ed every “T”.


28 posted on 08/02/2016 8:53:19 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: Kaslin

The transit authority also said the high-rise is made of concrete rather than steel, “resulting in a very heavy building. This heavy structure rests on layers of soft, compressible soil. The foundation of the Tower, however, consists only of a concrete slab supported by short piles that fail to reach the bedrock below. That foundation is inadequate to prevent settlement of a building with the weight of the Tower.”


If it’s true they didn’t sink the piles into the bedrock, then it’s the builders’ fault.


29 posted on 08/02/2016 8:53:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ilovesarah2012

Would depend on which side you view from. A sink of 16 inches should have condemned the structure without the 2 inche tilt! The residents better get the heck out while they can ... scramble Joe, SCRAMBLE! RUN dude!


30 posted on 08/02/2016 8:55:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: rdl6989; NicknamedBob; SoothingDave; xsmommy; Texan5

Well, the building inspector would have only been able to inspect it during construction, and while the foudation was exposed - both could only be looked at BEFORE it began to lean.

The subsidence dropping down) of 16 inches is nasty: and means the foundation is terrible.

2 inch “lean” is not too much, but it will never get better, particularly since the 16 inch drop means the foundation itself is still moving and twisting under simple static loads. If an earthquake happens, that 2 inch may become dozens of inches, or complete collapse.


31 posted on 08/02/2016 8:55:58 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Boogieman
If it’s true they didn’t sink the piles into the bedrock, then it’s the builders’ fault.

That would be true only if that was the contemporary building code requirement in 2008 during construction. If the builders built to code (and can prove it) and a neighboring construction causes damage to a prior-existing structure, the "a priori" assumption is that the new construction is at fault.

Who wins? I don't know but the lawyers will submit a lot of billable hours! If the civic transit construction loses, then probably the taxpayers of SanFran, then of the county, then the state and finally everyone who pays taxes in the country!

32 posted on 08/02/2016 9:09:39 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Boogieman

I believe it is too the builder’s fault.


33 posted on 08/02/2016 9:10:06 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesome the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: SES1066

“That would be true only if that was the contemporary building code requirement in 2008 during construction.”

Sorry, but it’s irresponsible to build a highrise or skyscraper that isn’t resting on bedrock, no matter what the building code says. The courts can play out the legal drama, but it’s the builders’ fault if their shoddy construction is shoddy.


34 posted on 08/02/2016 9:11:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ilovesarah2012
Bet it’s tilting left.

Depends on where you are when looking at it :)

35 posted on 08/02/2016 9:15:07 AM PDT by upchuck (Why wish upon a star when you can pray directly to God who placed the star?)
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To: minnesota_bound

The FTA statement coincides with my thinking. The engineering firm was negligent. The footing/foundation contractor should have known better. The city should have known better if they bothered to look at the geological survey. Basic fuster-cluck all around. IMO


36 posted on 08/02/2016 9:16:51 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Need to buy a couple of pallets of popcorn for the upcoming "Battle of the Experts" in this $350m v $4.5b contest.

In this corner we have the private owner of a governmentally-approved and inspected foundation design.

Over in this corner we have a next door government project with very deep subterranean ambitions that could well be threatening that foundation.

You may think you have seen this one before but we guarantee new thrills and spills (oops).

37 posted on 08/02/2016 9:26:13 AM PDT by frog in a pot (It’s past time to question whether a “religion” with totalitarian ambitions is a 1stA religion.)
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To: frog in a pot

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38 posted on 08/02/2016 9:30:36 AM PDT by frog in a pot (It is past time to question whether a religion with totalitarian ambitions is a 1stA religion.)
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To: Kaslin

expect lawsuits til the cows come home from the casino


39 posted on 08/02/2016 9:38:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Cobra64; IamConservative; Boogieman; SES1066
You can build on/over a land fill provided you pound steel pilings down to bedrock. ...

Buildings of the size have to be anchored to bedrock.

I wonder what that means. Even if a building is "anchored to bedrock", if the bedrock is some distance below, perhaps the anchors/pilings are not always sufficient to support the entire weight of the building, especially if some of the intervening fill is displaced.

40 posted on 08/02/2016 9:39:34 AM PDT by wideminded
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