Posted on 07/29/2016 8:05:55 AM PDT by pinochet
If you were to give career advice to a high school student of average intellectual ability (he is not going to medical or engineering school), what kind of advice would it be?
We have a shortage of well-trained car mechanics, plumbers, electricians, painters, roofers, and the like. But we have all these BA graduates walking around jobless.
A lot more Gibmedats are crackers.
The BA of today is the high school diploma of yesteryear...
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Oftentimes not even that. My wife’s public high school required a lot more reading, and academic work in general, than many colleges do now. I can say that because I’ve taught at the college level and was shocked by the lack of basic skills that the students exhibited.
Its no longer about education; its about indoctrination.
Are you aware of The Frankfurt School from the mid-1940’s?
When everybody has a BA, then nobody has a BA.
They should just add grades 13 and 14 to high school and kids would get basically the same education as an AA. Then, go to college for only two years to earn a BA in the sciences, mathematics, engineering, etc.
The current racket is good for colleges and universities, more so than the students.
Parents’ basements everywhere are filled with kids sporting worthless BAs.
“In a decade, if you are smart and you work hard and they learn to count on you, you’ll be running the place. And then at some point maybe you buck up and open your own shop”
Just curious....During what Decades, and in what industry did you work?
A lady that modeled for me years ago (husband present) went into a similar thing and apparently they are doing well.
Pretty much any field in medicine, including Office Assistants are in demand for the aging Boomers, providing Obambicare doesn't entirely destroy our medical system
Understood, but there are so many programmers now with low pay or out of work due to competition it's not worth the effort. A Ph.D in computer science pays the best, but there is no guarantee since so many foreigners are using our universities to compete with us and then take their education back to their nations or origin.
No I haven’t heard of it. Did they actually teach students useful skills and knowledge, and promote critical thinking? ;)
I disagree.
If you don't show it by 8th grade, it ain't happening - or, at least, it ain't happening with enough probability to consume OPM.
I had to reach YOU before I read the magic words, LEARN A TRADE. Good for you.
It is ONLY the people who work the trades that keep this so-called HI-TECH country of ours going. Plumbers, mechanics, electricians, tailors, carpenters, welders, and a thousand others keep our world going and keep it safe to live in
That PROFESSOR will be hitchiking along the road because he can’t keep his car going. Without an elevartor repairman, no building could be more then 3 stories tall.
Elizabeth Warren loves to shout “You didn’t build that” She is correct. I (me) didn’t build it, a tradesman did. Another tradesman is the only one who can keep it working.
She and her ilk are ALLOWED to live, due to the skill of those she and her crowd look down upon.
I’m not the best example, since I’m not a college grad.
I worked in engineering, started on the drafting table, spent time overseas, taught myself to program, and worked myself into a more-or-less senior position.
The neat thing about it is that in my world, there were no arbitrary ceilings.
I did what I did with very little formal education, but I saw others with miscellaneous degrees do the same. Obviously if you don’t have an engineering degree you have a harder row to hoe, but I saw plenty of people do what I did. The key is that if you are willing to go get mud on your boots, you can make a pretty good living and learn as you go. And over time, again and again, you find that you are the go-to-guy people are looking for.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I said it would take you a decade to learn your craft. I began to emerge from the pack at around a decade, when I started taking assignments others didn’t want. I had ups and downs, but I had an interesting ride.
Jees. I just had to call a plumber. The going rate was $180 an hour.
“The going rate was $180 an hour.”
Ssshhh ! The libs will want to make that the minimum wage.
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This depends on the individual student. I know you hear all these horror stories about college, but on average college graduates make more money and have less unemployment than non college graduates. The trick is to figure out what you want to do and then get the skills to do it. If you hate plumbing your not likely to do well at it. If you hate writing don’t shoot for a PhD in Psychology.
My daughter and son in law each have degrees many freepers would disown their kids for. He BA political science she BS Psycology, BS Biology. They both have advanced degrees as well. Making just under 6 figures EACH, early 30s, love their jobs, no debt. They work very hard and are very entrepreneurial.
It really depends on the circumstances, what are they good at, what will they get enthused about? No matter what they choose they need a great work ethic.
60-80% of STEM grads and post-grads in universities are foreigners. Asking for locals to go do plumbing or roofing instead of college is only going to make things worse.
The Education Industrial Complex is milking that desire for all it's worth... (and it's worth a lot of cash). They'll take kids in who can't read or write but who qualify for student loans... lots of big fat studen6t loans. Then they stick the kids in remedial classes knowing 90% of them will be unable to keep a (real) college level job if they ever do graduate.
You've taught at the college level - you understand what's going on...
BUT...I think a major number of college students are having their "bachelor's" education bastardized with propaganda.
I'll bet you're doing a much better job of hiring...
In the old days you could look at a person's resume and see if they had all the right 'tickets punched'... Today that can't be done. Colleges are keeping kids in school based on 'student loan graft'. Someday it'll be exposed for what it is... until then you have to continue counting on your instinct and experience.
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