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Does America Need More BA Degrees?

Posted on 07/29/2016 8:05:55 AM PDT by pinochet

If you were to give career advice to a high school student of average intellectual ability (he is not going to medical or engineering school), what kind of advice would it be?

We have a shortage of well-trained car mechanics, plumbers, electricians, painters, roofers, and the like. But we have all these BA graduates walking around jobless.


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: badegrees; jobs; skills
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Our youth need real skills that will get them real jobs. Otherwise, they will turn into Bernie Sanders supporters.
1 posted on 07/29/2016 8:05:55 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

In the immortal words of Judge Smails, “The world needs ditch-diggers, too.”


2 posted on 07/29/2016 8:07:38 AM PDT by Augie
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To: pinochet

You answered your own question.


3 posted on 07/29/2016 8:07:43 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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Skilled tradesmen can make a great living. Stone masons make a fortune.


4 posted on 07/29/2016 8:08:34 AM PDT by lafroste
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Kids are getting into the Education Industrial Complex who can’t do math or write a simple sentence. The BA of today is the high school diploma of yesteryear...


5 posted on 07/29/2016 8:08:43 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Diversity" was never THE goal. Diversity was a byproduct of people coming 'yearning to be free'.)
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There’s damn good money to be made in the trades. I’m glad I went to college and got my engineering degree, but i could have done well running equipment chasing big projects if I wanted.


6 posted on 07/29/2016 8:09:08 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice ( I live with a Fierce Allegiance)
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Science, Engineering, or Finance, otherwise you're much better off in trades like plumbing or HVAC.

7 posted on 07/29/2016 8:09:41 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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... Learn a trade or skill and then start your own business. Repairmen making house calls make a lot more per hour than the hamburger job your BA will land you.


8 posted on 07/29/2016 8:09:48 AM PDT by nightmarewhileawake
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My daughter’s best friend enrolled in a BA program at an expensive private college.

After one semester she realized she was a fish out of water and dropped out.

She enrolled in tech school and became a welder.

As a black female welder she is always in demand.

Is doing well and drives a very nice car.
Just sayin’.


9 posted on 07/29/2016 8:11:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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You make a very good point. Part of the problem with advancing false narratives such as this global warming nonsense is that practically every niece and nephew we have now wants to get a degree in “environmental science” so they can help “save the world”. We don’t need millions of people with environmental science degrees. There is already a glut of them.


10 posted on 07/29/2016 8:12:23 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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You can go to a community college and get an AA in Electrical Engineering.


11 posted on 07/29/2016 8:12:47 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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A lot of employers require an undergrad degree. If employers were allowed to give general aptitude tests they would drop this requirement.


12 posted on 07/29/2016 8:13:19 AM PDT by Borges
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Our education system has become a) a Marxist-socialist indoctrination program, b) a NEA union-growing and leftist political machine and c) a professor & administrator jobs program.

It is showing the expected outcome: educational failures, joblessness, uncritical thinkers, crushing college debt and gibmedats abounding.


13 posted on 07/29/2016 8:13:28 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough)
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Based on the structure of our economy, the answer is no, we do not need more BA degrees.

Where exactly did the idea, that all young people should go to college, come from?

And how is it that it’s conventional wisdom that you should go to college, regardless of career goals, or whether or not you even have any job or careers in mind???

And if you think about it, regarding policies such as student loans being available, politicians of both parties over the years have urged us to go to college, and have liberalized loan policies to enable us to pay the increasing ly unafforadable cost of college.


14 posted on 07/29/2016 8:13:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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It's a no-brainer what the solution is. First, get the feds OUT of education. Then, states and local school boards would have to be educated that a good provision would be that every student be given the opportunity to develop a viable job skill in HS, including training on how to start and maintain an individual or small business.

Before shops were closed in high schools, a lot of students developed skills that made them work-force able when they graduated. All this "free college" (it won't be free because only tuition would be free) fiasco will do is prevent students with neither the talent nor inclination for college work from developing job skills for one or two more years.

15 posted on 07/29/2016 8:14:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: Augie
“The world needs ditch-diggers, too.”

The BAs are not going to be digging any ditches, cuz that's labor. But they will be babbling on about the implications of Goedel's theorem for political reform/ice-cream manufacture/economics/house music at the slightest provocation.

16 posted on 07/29/2016 8:14:38 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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< We don’t need millions of people with environmental science degrees. There is already a glut of them.

And transgender studies and liberal arts. You might as well have a degree in Popsicle stick art..

17 posted on 07/29/2016 8:15:14 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Learn a trade. The peutocracy(*) may be adept at gaining power over other people's lives but they can not build, install, operate, or repair anything. Learn how to do these things and the peuts will be like cows to be milked.

(*)Puerile Effite Urban Twits

18 posted on 07/29/2016 8:15:48 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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S T E M


19 posted on 07/29/2016 8:16:07 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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Danny N.............Where’d it go

Ty .........right in the lumber yard


20 posted on 07/29/2016 8:16:09 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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