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Man fatally shoots teen forcing his way into home, gets muder (sic) charge
guns.com ^ | July 19, 2016 | Jennifer Cruz

Posted on 07/20/2016 8:10:44 AM PDT by PROCON


A Massachusettes man was charged with murder after he shot and killed a 15-year-old boy who was trying to force his way inside the man’s Chicopee, Massachusetts, home Saturday afternoon.

Jeffery Lovell, 42, called the police to report what he believed was a break-in in progress just before 1 p.m. According to reports from the Chicopee Police Department, three teens went to Lovell’s home and began banging on the front door repeatedly. Lovell said he attempted to communicate with the youths through the door, but was unsuccessful.

As the banging continued, Lovell believed the teens were trying to break in, so he called the police and retrieved a firearm. But before the responding officers arrived on the scene, one of the teens struck the door with enough force that it broke a window pane within the door. At that point, more convinced the teens were trying to force their way into his home, Lovell fired a single shot, striking one of the youths.

When police arrived a short time later, they found the injured teen lying on the ground outside of the home. He was suffering from a gunshot wound to his abdomen and was transported to a local hospital, where he died. He was later identified as 15-year-old Dylan Francisco.

Investigators later learned that Francisco and the other teens had been drinking at a friend’s home nearby and began walking through the neighborhood when they mistook Lovell’s home for someone else’s.

Hampden District Attorney Anthony D. Gulluni called the incident “unfortunate,” but nonetheless determined Lovell’s actions warranted a murder charge.

“This was a tragic and avoidable incident that resulted in a young man losing his life,” Gulluni said in a statement.

Although there is no duty to retreat in the state of Massachusetts, the law clearly states that in order for deadly force to be deemed justifiable, the suspect must be inside the dwelling and the occupant of the home must have a “reasonable belief that the person unlawfully in said dwelling was about to inflict great bodily injury or death.”

Lovell is currently being held without bail.


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To: bgill

We need some regulatory decapture.


41 posted on 07/20/2016 9:31:06 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: PROCON
So the SOP would be to shoot to kill, open door, drag body inside the home and THEN call police? TRiUMPh
42 posted on 07/20/2016 9:31:33 AM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: Blue Jays
Your friend's dad who was a sheriff is terribly mistaken with advice he is providing. One does *NOT* shoot to kill. One shoots to halt an attack.

That is why one cannot stand over a writhing criminal and pump three more bullets into him / her while squirming on the ground disengaged from the fight.

If the attacker happens to die in the course of a no-bill shooting, that is one thing. To ensure the criminal dies (even though attack was halted) will land an otherwise law-abiding person in legal hot water.

Appreciate the clarification, that's good to know.

43 posted on 07/20/2016 9:37:35 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: catnipman

Decades ago while living in Texas, a Texas Ranger advised us if a perp is shot and is in your yard, drag him into your home then call the Rangers.


44 posted on 07/20/2016 9:42:29 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: PROCON
Poor guy, will a Massachusetts jury convict him?

You bet. This is a state where the overwhelming majority of massholes are democrats, and democrats believe that there is no right to self defense. The believe that the only the government should have guns, so yes he will probably be convicted.

45 posted on 07/20/2016 9:44:23 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: PROCON
Whooaaaa. According to the article, there were three teens trying to break into his house. What would his odds have been if he let them get in his house.

Sounds like a situation that for a decent lawyer and trial by jury. No one in their right mind will think it's okay to wait for three teens to break in their house.

46 posted on 07/20/2016 9:46:08 AM PDT by grania
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To: baltimorepoet

A glass pane INSIDE the main door is also INSIDE the storm door, The punk was breaking and entering. He had other punks with him. Any reasonable person would be afraid for their life under similar circumstances.


47 posted on 07/20/2016 9:50:39 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: PROCON
So, because the perp wasn't inside the house, it's murder.
Yes. In Massachusetts, he's screwed.

Poor guy, will a Massachusetts jury convict him?
Yes. While in MA you no longer are required to flee your own house when faced with an intruder, firing on someone who is not in your house will get you convicted.

48 posted on 07/20/2016 10:00:14 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (BlackOlivesMatter)
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To: PROCON

The charge is not unreasonable since the homeowner was inside, behind a secured door, and the drunken fool was outside the house. He was not in any immediate danger and should have called the police to come a collect the drunk.


49 posted on 07/20/2016 10:04:46 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: PROCON

Massachusetts, once the cradle of liberty, now a tyrannical sh@t pit designed to crush individuals.


50 posted on 07/20/2016 10:13:35 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The homeowner will be ruined defending himself, but I have to think he cannot be convicted based on the story of the surviving co-perps. Wouldn’t they be culpable for murder in MA if they were committing a felony home invasion at the time their pal was shot? Such a massive incentive to lie should negate their yarn, with the benefit of the doubt going to the shooter. Absent other evidence or some idiotic statement by the defendant, I can’t see this as a justifiable prosecution.

I suspect that the group members among them have an extensive history of break-ins, robberies, and assaults that will be kept secret since they are juveniles. I hope someone archived all their social media before the scrubbing.


51 posted on 07/20/2016 10:26:41 AM PDT by Chewbarkah (o)
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To: Vigilanteman
Vigilanteman wrote: "...A glass pane INSIDE the main door is also INSIDE the storm door, The punk was breaking and entering. He had other punks with him."
"... three teens went to Lovell’s home and began banging on the front door repeatedly. Lovell said he attempted to communicate with the youths through the door, but was unsuccessful.

and

"...Lovell said HE SAW FRANCISCO WALKING AROUND IN HIS YARD, and then he knocked on a locked door that had three vertical panes of glass.
Prosecutors said Francisco's knocking broke one pane, and Lovell shot through another pane, hitting Francisco in the chest."

These boys were well within the property and looking for trouble - and found it.

52 posted on 07/20/2016 10:28:24 AM PDT by wtd
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To: thirst4truth

"...Decades ago while living in Texas, a Texas Ranger advised us if a perp is shot and is in your yard, drag him into your home then call the Rangers..."


Totally incorrect advice.
Doing that will ensure you land in prison.


53 posted on 07/20/2016 10:39:44 AM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: Blue Jays

That would be regarded as tampering with the evidence. So, let them break in, then hose them down with lead.


54 posted on 07/20/2016 11:05:24 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: TexasRepublic

You are 100% exactly correct, TexasRepublic.

Unsure why so many allegedly intelligent FReepers keep spreading ridiculous advice to "drag people inside" thinking that is a wise move. The intelligent thing is to call police AGAIN and seek both police and paramedics respond with urgency.

What would otherwise be a simple no-bill situation then otherwise lands a person in prison (for a long time) because they tampered with evidence.

55 posted on 07/20/2016 11:14:28 AM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: PROCON

And Lovell was supposed to know this? That law sounds more than outrageous. I guess everyone in fear of their lives will have to open the door from here on out and hope the perp doesn’t shoot first.......grrrrr. If he gets convicted there needs to be a national outcry!


56 posted on 07/20/2016 11:18:21 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: PROCON

I wouldn’t.


57 posted on 07/20/2016 11:35:15 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: headstamp 2

Of course, the elites don’t want the citizenry armed.


58 posted on 07/20/2016 11:37:15 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: PROCON

Look people, you can’t shoot him in the yard and you can’t shoot him on the porch in most states and you can’t shoot him the back running down the driveway. I hope the poor homeowner gets a decent jury.


59 posted on 07/20/2016 12:01:55 PM PDT by stellaluna
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To: WMarshal
“He shot through a closed door. Typical Democrat who is too stupid to own a gun. He violated all the rules of firearms safety.”

I think that post wins the award for the dumbest post of the day. The right to defend yourself, your family, and your property is a God-given right and I don’t give a d*mn what the local jurisdiction says. This incident is exactly what jury nullification is for.

What would happen to this guy if those three “innocent” youth had gotten into his house? Many 15-year-old boys are man-size and are going to be much stronger and faster than the man who shot them.

You are obviously ignorant about a great deal of things. This guy shot through a closed door. I would never shoot through a closed door. What if the person on the other side was standing to the side and you hit the neighbor across the street? What if it was a woman at the door running away from the husband who was just beating her? You would really shoot through a closed door without having any idea of what's on the other side? Somebody beating on my door is not going to put me in fear for my life. That's one of the criteria necessary before you can claim self defense. Should I ever be in that position, I will be prepared. That's why I carry a semi-automatic with 14 rounds, as well as two spare magazines. I have also checked out defensive positions in my house, to include fields of fire that won't hit my neighbors' houses. My God-given right to self defense doesn't give me a license to be stupid about it. And that was the case in this situation. The homeowner was absolutely wrong in what he did. And no jury will nullify his actions. I certainly wouldn't. I also don't expect any gun rights organizations to back his actions. I'm guessing you know nothing about self defense law or firearms safety. So you may want to refrain from criticizing those who do.

60 posted on 07/20/2016 12:31:59 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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