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To: SunkenCiv

The Republic was expanding its sphere of influence for centuries, but there was no empire until founded by Augustus in 27 BC.


21 posted on 07/09/2016 4:42:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
That's an interesting point of view, it just happens to be unshared by the overwhelming majority of historians, and it clearly not based on anything much.

23 posted on 07/09/2016 5:18:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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Not really, Ben -- prior to 27 BC there was a Roman Empire. It was run by and established by the Republic. It started, as SC had said, right from the conquest of the other Latin cities by Roma.

Having done that, they created what is arguably an Empire

The term empire does mean a set of captive nations ruled by another nation -- it doesn't matter what that ruler nation's government is.

Note that also there were Emperors (or specifically Imperators i.e. Military dictators/commanders in chief) right from the early days of the Republic.

Augustus didn't establish the Empire, he established the position of Princep (first among equals) that was kept until Diocletian started the Dominate period

38 posted on 12/11/2016 11:05:40 PM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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