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Anybody Else Disturbed by the Dallas use of the "Bomb Robot"?
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Posted on 07/08/2016 11:15:33 AM PDT by Rinnwald

“We saw no other option than to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension to detonate where the suspect was”


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To: Bogey78O
The use of any method to end the violent behavior of a scofflaw, as long as it doesn’t endanger innocents, is warranted.

Will one day gun possession be labeled as violent behavior?

21 posted on 07/08/2016 11:23:11 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“The Philly Police used a bomb on suspects in 1985 and burned down an entire city block.”

I remember that. Oops!


22 posted on 07/08/2016 11:23:20 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Rinnwald

“I am shocked that the Dallas Police are using explosives as a deadly weapon.”

Before you go postal, why don’t you try and find out just what was used to “supress” the shooter? I would submit that not all “expolsives” are area weapons necessarily. The robot could have had something like an M-79 on it that lagged in a small grenade.


23 posted on 07/08/2016 11:23:20 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Rinnwald
I'd hope that police wouldn't use such a device routinely...but this was far from a “routine” matter.Not having been there I cannot be certain if its use was justified or not.
24 posted on 07/08/2016 11:23:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (What Did Loretta and BillyBob Discuss For 30 Minutes In Phoenix? Grandchildren?)
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To: Rinnwald
As long as there was no danger of collateral damage I have no issue with this. They had an armed and extremely dangerous person who was also wearing body armor. It was obvious that they were not going to negotiate a surrender and he was not going to be taken peacefully.

Could they have used something to disable him - possibly - but also remember he had indicated that multiple IEDs were planted around the city, so they had to proceed with the suspicion that he might have a remote detonation device of some type.

In that case, if he is not completely disabled he could possibly detonate multiple explosives. They had to take him out completely and quickly and this was the best solution to do that.

Hindsight is always 20/20

25 posted on 07/08/2016 11:23:38 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: Candor7

“He needed to be taken alive. They could have gassed him”

I suppose a robot could have an assortment of weapons, lethal and non-lethal. For instance, it could start with Hillary’s laugh.


26 posted on 07/08/2016 11:24:33 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Rinnwald

Sets a questionable precedent


27 posted on 07/08/2016 11:24:50 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Bogey78O

During the Ruby Ridge standoff, the FBI rigged a robot up with a telephone and sent it up to the front door to “negotiate” with Randy Weaver.

Weaver never went out to answer the phone. Why? Because it a had a shotgun mounted on it aimed at the telephone.


28 posted on 07/08/2016 11:24:59 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Rinnwald

Why explosives in their arsenal - breaching charges, charges used to destroy suspected bombs, etc. I get why they have it.

I also get the choice; assuming a police sniper couldn’t get a good angle without exposing himself to counter fire, and assuming no available armor would guarantee officer safety, I can see how they came to the idea. Being that his elevated position and previous shots from that position (including during negotiations), he was an imminent danger to the public.

But yeah, it disturbs the hell out of me.


29 posted on 07/08/2016 11:25:00 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Philly Police used a bomb on suspects in 1985 and burned down an entire city block.

I would say this is an argument against police bombings. Also, that case put the kibosh on explosives as a viable tactic for about 30 years.

30 posted on 07/08/2016 11:25:03 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Rinnwald

Robots Lives Matter


31 posted on 07/08/2016 11:25:33 AM PDT by tflabo (truth or tyrrany)
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To: Cboldt

See my post #28


32 posted on 07/08/2016 11:26:21 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Rinnwald

NOPE NOT ONE BIT....if they want to kill our Policemen and women then use whatever is necessary to kill them...

This is Barky’s fault, ALL OF IT!!!


33 posted on 07/08/2016 11:26:38 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Rinnwald

Yes, I am. I don’t see the point. Law enforcement and combat are two different things, or ought to be.


34 posted on 07/08/2016 11:27:04 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Parmy

Until one comes to your house and blows up your dog


35 posted on 07/08/2016 11:27:17 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: Rinnwald

Why didn’t they just starve him out?

Afraid he’d be a problem for them if he lived?


36 posted on 07/08/2016 11:27:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Rinnwald

There is a chance that they were stealthy with it, imagining the scenario where he is threatening to detonate bombs in the city. They keep him talking to keep him from detonating, and secretly where he can’t see, they bring in this way of getting him. Like a drone or something that he doesn’t expect. They needed a small way to get him where he didn’t know he was going to die, so he didn’t detonate. Just imagining, maybe I am dead wrong because I don’t know about this stuff.


37 posted on 07/08/2016 11:27:54 AM PDT by Yaelle (Sorry, Mr. Franklin. We've been extremely careless with our Republic.)
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To: Rinnwald
I have an issue with local law enforcement becoming militarized.

A few short years ago, Obozo said, “We need a civilian force, just as well funded, just as equipped as the military”.

This is a way to get around Posse Comitatus.

The purpose of this act was to limit the federal governments use of military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the U.S.

I dunno, the world is so much different now dayz. Cops and or even law abiding citizens are at much greater risk. I can see the cops wanting to be prepared, but explosives? What next? Cops lobbing grenades around?

38 posted on 07/08/2016 11:28:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: WENDLE

If they blew him up with his own bomb, I call that poetic justice.


39 posted on 07/08/2016 11:28:01 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Candor7

Jack Ruby wasn’t available.


40 posted on 07/08/2016 11:28:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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