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IN a world where freon costs $100.00/pound nothing makes sense....
1 posted on 05/28/2016 6:59:35 AM PDT by central_va
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One word. No not plastics*. Regulation.

*”The Graduate”


2 posted on 05/28/2016 7:03:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Could be a side-effect of the recent TSCA bill.


3 posted on 05/28/2016 7:04:14 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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I’ll go with EPA, perhaps other fed jerks.


4 posted on 05/28/2016 7:04:21 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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It’s illegal in the United States, isn’t it?


5 posted on 05/28/2016 7:06:28 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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Thats because Dupont developed an alternative to freon and convinced the greenies that its environmentally unsafe and they are the only place to save the environment and the keep the ozone hole from spreading


6 posted on 05/28/2016 7:08:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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EPA phaseout with deadline of 2020.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced its final phasedown schedule regarding production and importation of HCFC-22 on Oct. 16. The order calls for an immediate drop from 51 million pounds allowed in 2014 to 22 million pounds beginning Jan. 1, 2015. Subsequently, 18 million pounds of new and imported R-22 will be allowed in 2016, 13 million pounds in 2017, 9 million pounds in 2018, and 4 million pounds in 2019. No new or imported R-22 will be allowed in the U.S. on or after Jan. 1, 2020.

8 posted on 05/28/2016 7:10:38 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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The only source for R-22 is reclaimed from existing machines and whatever new old stock remains. Thank the EPA.


9 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:05 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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Algore thanks you from one of his mansions.


10 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:08 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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You got ripped off, a 30lb bottle of R22 is only $275.


11 posted on 05/28/2016 7:11:42 AM PDT by eyeamok
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Just like new car models people wanted to change to something to make more profit. There are replacement products that are said to be more environmental friendly which means more money will be taken by the government. You can get a “license” to purchase refrigerants form a car parts store for about $20 which consists of an open book test mailed to a licensing company.


12 posted on 05/28/2016 7:12:36 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Supply and demand.


13 posted on 05/28/2016 7:13:15 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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I was in the mobile AC supply business when the Montreal Protocol was put in place. It was nothing more then a taxing scheme. You are paying a little for the product and a heap of taxes that goes god knows where.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol


14 posted on 05/28/2016 7:13:58 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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Wholesale in our area is between $375 and $520. The price should be around $30 per pound.


15 posted on 05/28/2016 7:14:44 AM PDT by Sawdring
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I used to drive buses for a Christian summer camp. One of the buses used R-12

The cost was insane. We finally ended up switching out to a R134 system. It was costing $1000 just for a recharge.


19 posted on 05/28/2016 7:22:45 AM PDT by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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It is no longer made, ruled bad for the Ozone. All new home systems using 410C way cheaper also


22 posted on 05/28/2016 7:38:16 AM PDT by fedupjohn (Trump, The Alpha Male Chosen By Sarah Palin To Lead our Army To Victory..Trump/Palin 2016...)
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1) the patents expired
2) industry developed a new, patented product
3) corrupt politicians banned the manufacture of the old coolant to promote sales of the new patented product. For the children, of course.
4) existing supplies of the old coolant became increasingly valuable despite the expiration of the patent, while consumers were forced to buy new, more expensive, and less efficient appliances.

The old coolant is, of course, cheaply available in much of the world, but in the US, industry made money, the politicians made money, and the consumer got screwed.


23 posted on 05/28/2016 7:41:09 AM PDT by PAR35
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When the Ozone Hole doesn’t get any smaller, who to sue?


27 posted on 05/28/2016 7:59:20 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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Anyone have any experience with drop-in replacements for R-22 like http://www.comstarproducts.com/rs-44-refrigerant


29 posted on 05/28/2016 8:05:50 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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1 dollar to cover the cost of materials, 99 dollars for regulatory costs.


30 posted on 05/28/2016 8:10:28 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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You got by cheap...I was recently quoted $350 a pound for R-22. Due to environmental idiocy R-22 is no longer manufactured and what is available is from recycled sources. Probably cheaper to replace your AC than do repairs and refill an R-22 system. Be careful about cheap R-22. I have heard that disreputable types are using propane turning your AC into a bomb.


32 posted on 05/28/2016 8:43:42 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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