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To: ilgipper
This character assassination of a conservative champion is another.

Exactly. That was my point: he's stood up to 0bama when others refused to do so. He hasn't been perfect by a long stretch (nobody has), but Ted's fought the good fight. And he's just following the rules regarding the delegates, not 'cheating'.

29 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:45 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bassmaner
At this point, there's nothing Cruz, Kasich, Romney, or anyone else can accomplish, other than to guarantee a Clinton victory.

I believe Trump when he says he can still win without a unified party. However, if the Cruz/Stop Trump tag team is successful, Trump supporters would feel disenfranchised, meaning a Clinton landslide.

A political party can't ignore the will of a majority of it's actual voters (in this case likely to be north of 11 million) and expect to be successful. Not happening.

Regardless of how one feels, this is the reality. Actual elections still do matter.

If Cruz supporters truly want to accomplish something positive, recognize the likely nominee and work at the convention to enact a Conservative party platform.

60 posted on 05/02/2016 2:48:32 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: bassmaner
Ted's fought the good fight.

No, he's done a good job making it look like he is fighting, however, in the end, he will side with maintaining his power & $$$, period. Given the choice between the American voter and doing what is politically expedient, or what his sponsors want him to do, he will choose the latter. sCruz is a heckuva guy, but in the end, when all else is peeled away, he is a typical career politician, beholden not to the people who elected him, but to his uniparty masters and corporate sponsors.

104 posted on 05/02/2016 3:00:13 PM PDT by dware (I don't care what bathroom they use, as long as it's in the nuthouse, where they belong)
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To: bassmaner

I should quit rising to this bait.

” And he’s just following the rules regarding the delegates, not ‘cheating’.”

That statement is not truthful if you look at the situation.

First it is the rules are the problem. An honest ethical man would not use unethical means and the addition of unbound delegates to skew an election is unethical. It will also not be possible in the general election. An honest man does not use dishonest means.

Also, there is more going on than “following the rules” when governors and ex-governors of states (Maine and Arizona)start to complain about the conduct of Cruz people in a caucus you can’t blame it on rules. Cruz people have published false delegate list (Pennsylvania), they have lied about other candidates dropping out of a race, and they did do that(Iowa). They have openly and deliberately suppressed support for Trump (Colorado, Wyoming). They have used unbound delegates to gain parity in delegates where they lost a state primary (Louisiana, New Hampshire.

Supporters of Senator Cruz also have consistently misrepresented Mr Trumps positions, cherry picked statement (from as far back as 46 years ago) often taken out of context to claim Trump is something he is not. When this is pointed out the Cruz supporters simply resort to ad homminem attacks. I’ve been called - all by Cruz supporters and despite going out of my way to be polite to them: A cultist, a low-info a Trumpanzee, Trumpist, Trum-ape a liberal, a fool and many other names.

I cannot remember how many time I have had to reply to same 10 to 15 objections to Trump that are near complete misrepresentations of his positions. I started a post to answer the questions but stopped when it ended up over 12 typed pages long and I was not finished with it. That was too long to post here and I’d come to the conclusion that Cruz supporters wouldn’t read it anyway.

You complain about the way Trump supporters act but we’ve never started a #NeverCruz and had it published nation wide.

From where I sit as an ex-Cruz supporter the Cruz supporters started the vitriol. It was the Cruz supporters viciousness that caused me to change m position. It galls me that you have the temerity to then try and sit on some faux moral high horse about how rude the Trump supporters are.


149 posted on 05/02/2016 3:19:36 PM PDT by Fai Mao (openly)
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To: bassmaner

No he really didn’t. Rand Paul actually was better at this than Ted. Rand stood up when spying on the American people was being debated. And he stood alone for long hours

Ted is all hat and no cattle. A man of honor that he claims to be would not be behaving the way he is right now.


222 posted on 05/02/2016 3:50:15 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: bassmaner

As a Senator Cruz accomplished nothing !


313 posted on 05/02/2016 5:39:29 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you)
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To: bassmaner

I voted n for Cruz in my primary and it’s possible I’d vote for someone that gave money to Hillary, likes Planned Parenthood, and thinks you should be able to choose what gender bathroom you go to.
Nah, it’s just a scratch.


361 posted on 05/02/2016 8:35:06 PM PDT by Boowhoknew
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