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Questions raised after teens drown following police pursuit
13News Now (St Pete) ^ | 4/22/16

Posted on 04/22/2016 12:15:03 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

There are some serious questions about what happened in the hours leading up to three teenagers dying in a Florida pond after police dashcam video was released of the incident.

The video shows the marsh-like pond is too thick for deputies to save the girls early in the morning of March 31st.

In a press conference the following day, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said his deputies took off their belts, rushing into the water to try and save them, but were hindered by mucky conditions

But dashcam video only shows the officers standing near the pond, watching the girls' car sink, and calling for backup.

It's too late. 15-year-olds Laniya Miller, Ashaunti Butler, and 16-year-old Dominique Battle all drown. Now their families are hiring a lawyer and calling for a new investigation, saying officers aren't telling the whole story about girls they say deputies are painting as criminals.

"My daughter was not perfect," said Laniya Miller's mother, fighting back tears. "What 15-year-old is?"

The girls are accused of stealing a car in a Walmart parking lot and running from police several times before crashing into the pond.

On Friday, the Miller family's lawyer says she can't comment on the dashcam evidence until she goes through everything. But just last week, she told ABC News that there are inconsistencies in law enforcement statements and moments leading to crash.

"In my opinion, this has been a rush to judgment," Michele Whitfield said. "In my opinion, this has been a smear campaign."


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To: dfwgator

“You forgot the cottonmouths and alligators that frequently inhabit these lakes around here.”

Ping...


21 posted on 04/22/2016 12:31:47 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Blue Jays

If the car thieves planned on driving into a lake to evade police, they should have had the sense to wear personal flotation devices in advance.

22 posted on 04/22/2016 12:33:02 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: FoxInSocks

Yes. Another freeper pointed out that if those teens had been in jail where they belong they would still be alive.


23 posted on 04/22/2016 12:33:23 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: FoxInSocks
"Between them, the three girls had been arrested on vehicle theft charges seven times in the past year, representing a growing trend in Pinellas County."

The Tampa Tribune

24 posted on 04/22/2016 12:33:31 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Just knock em in the head with a stump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXk9qywB6Kg


25 posted on 04/22/2016 12:34:49 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: driftdiver
You forgot the cottonmouths and alligators that frequently inhabit these lakes around here.

Bingo! From what I understand, gators really like those marshy areas.

I avoid my favorite walking trail after a heavy rain, as a number of areas are flooded, and water moccasins inhabit the area.

As to the tragic event, Mr. Darwin tried to warn us.

26 posted on 04/22/2016 12:40:33 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: Gamecock

I’ve never stollen a car, nor have any of my acquaintances. I literally have no personal relationship with anybody who has. But hey, nobody’s perfect according to baby mamma. Sorry, I’m finding it difficult to be a good Christian with this story.


27 posted on 04/22/2016 12:41:29 PM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Your exactly right, and these girls were already in fight or flee mode before they went into the water. No one in their right mind would go in after them.


28 posted on 04/22/2016 12:42:15 PM PDT by MNMom
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To: driftdiver; All

STUFF HAPPENS!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3350360/He-hid-wrong-place-Florida-man-killed-eaten-ALLIGATOR-hiding-police-caught-robbing-homes.html
The girls’ families a lucky in this sense, they have the girls bodies to bury!
In Florida some of our wildlife/creatures will eat yo AZZ!


29 posted on 04/22/2016 12:42:37 PM PDT by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Very sad to think somebody lost their car. It was probably used to take the owner to.work and shop. What a shame to have your vehicle totaled by thieves.


30 posted on 04/22/2016 12:46:56 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Trump vs Cruz - One loses in the summer, the other goes down in the fall.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Bingo!


31 posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:00 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: driftdiver
You forgot the cottonmouths and alligators that frequently inhabit these lakes around here.

You about took the words out of my mouth...

I live in the Tampa area and there is no way possible I would go into a murky deep retention pond in the middle of the night...

You have no idea where the car is, you are not equipped to go diving into the water...and of course who knows what is living in there and what other crap and junk has been tossed into it.....

Even on a clear sunny day in best conditions, you would need a professional diver to find the car...

32 posted on 04/22/2016 12:48:26 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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To: Impala64ssa

If this is the same incident I am recalling they had been caught joyriding may times before....

I am sorry that their lives ended before they cold come to grips with how stupid their behaviors were... but that’s the funny thing about behaving stupidly.. you don’t always get the opportunity to live to regret it.


33 posted on 04/22/2016 12:49:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Impala64ssa

Ironically, the fleeing felons died in a pond located in.............A cemetery!


34 posted on 04/22/2016 12:50:48 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Impala64ssa
The girls are accused of stealing a car in a Walmart parking lot

1.- They are accused of stealing the car because THEY STOLE THE CAR from a man who was kind enough to offer them a ride.

2. - Between them, the three girls had been arrested on vehicle theft charges seven times in 2015

3. - Butler had been arrested twice for vehicle theft, including her latest arrest on Jan. 18, when she was also charged with burglary, petit theft and possession of marijuana. Her previous arrests included resisting an officer without violence, burglary and retail theft.

4. - Battle had four prior arrests for vehicle theft along with arrests on charges of burglary, resisting an officer without violence, failure to appear, and violation of probation.

5. - Miller’s only other arrest was for vehicle theft.

6. - The mothers were all upset that the sheriff's department released the girls mug shots and their previous arrest records.

7. - Natasha Winkler was upset about how her daughter has been portrayed by the sheriff’s office.
“She should not be remembered as a thief,” Winkler said. “I’m even more sad about how this story has been twisted.”

8. - Clemmons is also mad about the way her daughter was portrayed.
“I don’t like how you all are slandering my daughter’s name and making her look like she such a known criminal when she’s not such a known criminal.

"It doesn’t matter how many cars she stole,” the mother said.

http://wfla.com/2016/04/11/mother-to-give-her-side-of-the-story-in-crash-that-killed-3-teens/


35 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Noah: 'When the animals began to pair up by specie and stand in line, I really took notice.')
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To: Wilderness Conservative

The insurance company will undoubtedly nickel and dime the lawful owner over the value of the vehicle, too.

36 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:14 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Impala64ssa

Takeaways ... You can’t open your doors when underwater and in mud. Electric windows stop working when your car is submerged.

Have a center punch easily reachable in your car.


37 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:34 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Do stupid things like steal cars, get stupid prizes like death...
38 posted on 04/22/2016 12:52:28 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Yep, I can’t believe this.

These teen thug criminal girls steal a car, drive recklessly on a police chase, drive off the road into a pond and drown, but the fault is with police who didn’t save them? Really? This is the logic at work here?

How did police know they would be needing frogmen standing by to go find these girls as a result of the chase??? Sheezee, common sense just goes out the window nowadays.


39 posted on 04/22/2016 12:53:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HamiltonJay

I am sorry that their lives ended before they cold come to grips with how stupid their behaviors were... but that’s the funny thing about behaving stupidly.. you don’t always get the opportunity to live to regret it.


The significance of these girls lives is that maybe, just maybe, their loss of life doing something stupid, will be a warning to some others, and save someone else from acting stupidly.


40 posted on 04/22/2016 12:54:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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