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Ted Cruz Once Argued That Americans Have No ‘Due Process’ Right to Masturbate
New York Magazine Intelligencer ^ | April 14, 2016 AST | By Eric Levitz

Posted on 04/14/2016 4:49:04 PM PDT by drewh

Ted Cruz once argued that Americans have no constitutional right to bear dildos, that the government has a legitimate interest in discouraging "autonomous sex," and that allowing the sale of sex toys is the first step on the road to legal incest.

This history comes courtesy of David Corn, who went searching for skeletons in Cruz's closet and stumbled across a bunch of dildo baggage instead. On Wednesday, the Mother Jones magazine published an exposé detailing Cruz's defense of a ban on sex-toy sales while serving as the Texas solicitor general. Back in 2004, several adult-plaything providers challenged a Texas law that banned the sale and promotion of "obscene devices." At the time, only three other states had similar laws on the books. The plaintiffs founded their challenge on the Fourteenth Amendment's right to privacy, arguing, among other things, that some couples are unable to engage in intercourse without the aid of sex toys, or else require them to avoid passing along contagious diseases such as HIV. A federal judge turned the company down, it appealed, and in 2007 it fell to Cruz's legal team to keep dildos from undermining the fabric of Western civilization.

In a 76-page brief calling on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit to stand with the lower court, Cruz's office wrote that "any alleged right associated with obscene devices" is not "deeply rooted in the Nation's history and traditions." While Cruz acknowledged that, after Lawrence v. Texas overturned sodomy laws, the government could not ban the "private use of obscene devices," it could ban their sale so as to uphold "public morals." What's more, while the government can't forbid citizens from masturbating, it has a legitimate interest in "discouraging ... autonomous sex." Cruz's team went on to declare, "There is no substantive-due-process right to stimulate one's genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship."

The appeals court disagreed in a 2–1 decision, which held that the government has no business encroaching on Americans' most private of affairs. But Cruz and Texas attorney general Greg Abbott (who is now the state's governor) battled on, filing a brief requesting a hearing before the full court of appeals, claiming the three-judge panel had overstepped the precedent set by Lawrence. Cruz's office argued that the prior ruling would give all manner of deviants grounds to claim that "engaging in consensual adult incest or bigamy" must be legal as they have a right to "enhance their sexual experiences." They lost the motion and ultimately chose not to bring the matter to the Supreme Court.

Cruz has never discussed his views on dildo commerce during the 2016 campaign, and it's unlikely that many of his supporters know his history on such matters. It's difficult to gauge the effect this news will have on Cruz's standing with the electorate, as exit polls neglected to ask Republican primarygoers about their affinity for sexual devices. Regardless, the American people deserve to know whether Cruz still holds such an expansive view of the government's right to regulate public morality. There are undoubtedly no small number of patriots in this country who would tell President Cruz's jackbooted thugs, "I'll give you my dildo when you pry it from my cold, dead hands."


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: arewestoopingthatlow; constitutionallaw; davidcorn; legalargument; liberaltrash; motherjones; yeswestoopedthatlow
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To: Tax-chick

I’m not familiar with that name or the case it must refer to.


41 posted on 04/14/2016 5:13:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Tax-chick

The “powers of darkness have obviously made are real piece of work out of some of you.


42 posted on 04/14/2016 5:14:05 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

There are levels of irony ye wot not of.


43 posted on 04/14/2016 5:15:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Tax-chick

It is entirely apropos.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3420024/posts


44 posted on 04/14/2016 5:16:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Tax-chick

I ask you because I figure since you’re so close to him you’d know.


45 posted on 04/14/2016 5:16:49 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Never held a job in the private sector;never met a payroll,never created a job - CRUZ! Conservative!)
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To: Tax-chick; TigersEye

Whoops, 44 was to you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3420024/posts


46 posted on 04/14/2016 5:17:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: VerySadAmerican

What is it that causes you to make that statement?


47 posted on 04/14/2016 5:17:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Tax-chick

What is it that causes you to respond to my question with “I don’t know. You tell me.”


48 posted on 04/14/2016 5:21:16 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Never held a job in the private sector;never met a payroll,never created a job - CRUZ! Conservative!)
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To: drewh

Did they ban dairy milking machines too?


49 posted on 04/14/2016 5:21:52 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: drewh

I look forward to the expansive review of the cases Hillary took as a lawyer, and the assignment of her clients’ positions as her own.

That is the slime that David Corn is doing here and others are joining him apparently.


50 posted on 04/14/2016 5:22:11 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: VerySadAmerican

I don’t understand why my post indicating that this topic didn’t affect my view of the election caused you to raise, toward me, questions regarding Sen. and Mrs. Cruz. Nor do I understand your subsequent posts.

I assume I’m totally missing something. Whatever.


51 posted on 04/14/2016 5:23:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: drewh

I am not surprised that this would interest David Corn.


52 posted on 04/14/2016 5:25:29 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: drewh

The case being argued here concerning the 14th amendment vs states rights is the same argument made in Lawrence, Roe and he gay marriage.


53 posted on 04/14/2016 5:25:31 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Tax-chick

I posted Did Ted and Heidi stopped having sex after they had their second child. You responded “I don’t know. You tell me.”


54 posted on 04/14/2016 5:25:56 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Never held a job in the private sector;never met a payroll,never created a job - CRUZ! Conservative!)
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To: drewh

The press is going to milk this for all it’s worth.


55 posted on 04/14/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Crump or Lose 2016)
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To: drewh

He and his wife definitely have screws loose. I watched him on Jimmy Kimmel and he came across weird. Kimmel just let him talk.


56 posted on 04/14/2016 5:28:58 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: VerySadAmerican

What response were you expecting? It’s a principle of legal argumentation that one doesn’t ask a question without having an answer in mind.

I’m assuming that, just as every song isn’t autobiographical about the songwriter, much less the performer, neither is every court argument personal about the lawyer. On that line, however, neither masturbation or didlos is related to reproduction, which leaves your question still irrelevant, as far as I can tell.


57 posted on 04/14/2016 5:29:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world is full of wonder, but you see it only if you look." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Are you really that stupid? Cruz was an attorney for the State of Texas, working under Attorney General, now Governor, Greg Abbot. He was assigned to defend Texas State law, and he did his job.

Yes, you are really that stupid....


58 posted on 04/14/2016 5:30:15 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Tax-chick
I see, yes, that's a perfect example. According to the new conservative movement SG Cruz should have decided what parts of his job he wanted to do and which parts he didn't. Hey, it'll make America great again!
59 posted on 04/14/2016 5:30:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: A CA Guy

yes right as Solicitor General and arguing before the supreme court. nothing to do.


60 posted on 04/14/2016 5:31:21 PM PDT by applpie
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