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"Apartment 5D, unauthorized A/C unit, go get 'em boys!"

1 posted on 04/12/2016 4:45:24 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Go TRUMP!!


2 posted on 04/12/2016 4:46:05 PM PDT by WENDLE (REMEMBER COLORADO!!!)
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To: PROCON

lol

Insanity.


4 posted on 04/12/2016 4:49:10 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: PROCON

I feel safer already knowing a nameless faceless bureaucrat will dictate the air conditioner choices we can make.


5 posted on 04/12/2016 4:50:11 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Larry Lucido; cripplecreek; Red in Blue PA; Gamecock; SaveFerris; FredZarguna; KC_Lion; ...
I wonder if the Commando 8 meets DOE requirements?


6 posted on 04/12/2016 4:50:46 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

1. Abolish the Department of Energy.
2. Move the Nuclear National Security Agency (nuclear weapons labs: Sandia, Los Alamos, etc.) to Department of Defense.


11 posted on 04/12/2016 5:01:20 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: PROCON

During the Libyan civil war, Libyans slaughtered tens of thousands of Qaddhafi’s bureaucrats. They dragged these bureaucrat nazis into the streets, shot them in the head and shoveled them into open pits by the thousands.

Now Libyans can use air conditioners without any interference. Could there possibly be a lesson to learn here?


12 posted on 04/12/2016 5:01:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: PROCON

In view of this sort of government meddling, apply early for your Fart License.


17 posted on 04/12/2016 5:09:43 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (uff said.)
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To: PROCON
1. Portable Air Conditioners regulated.
2. Prices become prohibitively expensive for seniors.
3. Seniors start dying of heat prostration in the summer.
4. Medicare and Obamacare expenses decrease

Mission Accomplished!

20 posted on 04/12/2016 5:13:20 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: PROCON

We pay for millions of these busy bodies who need to justify their generous pay checks by passing thousands of new regulators every year. We are no longer a free people because we let these federal agencies bully us. They should all be shut down for five years,and then only the most necessary ones should be reinstated and reformed.


22 posted on 04/12/2016 5:17:10 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nanny state ping


25 posted on 04/12/2016 5:27:15 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON; All
"The Department of Energy (DOE) recently determined that portable air conditioners meet the criteria set under the Energy Policy Conservation Act (as amended) for efficiency mandates."

The constitutional problem with the DOE making regulatory decisions is this imo. The Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution's Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide these clauses from Congress, to clarify that all federal legislative / regulatory powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in non-elected bureaucrats like those running the constitutionally undefined DOE, EPA and IRS. So Congress has a constitutionaly “monopoly” on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not.

So by delegating federal regulatory powers to the non-elected bureaucrats who run regulatory agencies like the DOE, Congress is wrongly protecting such powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of Sections 1-3 mentioned above.

Next, I don’t know if portable air conditioners are manufactured in the states. But if they have to be imported or are manufactured in only a few states, then Congress basically “owns” this issue through the Commerce Clause (1.8.3) imo.

On the other hand, regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wanted citizens to think about the scope of Congress’s Commerce powers, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from regulating INTRAstate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So if any state manufactures portable air conditioners then Congress cannot regulate those units that are sold when buyer and seller are domeciled in the same state that the units are manufactured in imo.

And there’s also a question if the DOE and its unpopular regulations would exist if the ill-conceived 17th Amendment had never been ratified.

Insights, corrections welcome.

26 posted on 04/12/2016 5:28:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: PROCON

My SUV has an air conditioner that makes icicles. It’s comfortable to sit in too.


28 posted on 04/12/2016 5:43:52 PM PDT by umgud
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To: PROCON

Too bad the DOE is here and the Constitution left out by the curb.


30 posted on 04/12/2016 6:00:46 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: PROCON

Buying a 50 year supply, suckit big gov!


31 posted on 04/12/2016 6:01:21 PM PDT by dila813 (Go Cruz!)
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To: PROCON


33 posted on 04/12/2016 6:13:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: PROCON

Ducky...now there will be programs to swap out old air-conditioners for the newly regulated ones.
Low/No income, and government workers in the know, will get more vouchers paid for by taxpayers.


34 posted on 04/12/2016 6:33:28 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: PROCON; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; ...

Phucque the Energy Department.

Nanny State PING!


36 posted on 04/12/2016 7:05:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Stick a fork in America; she's done.)
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To: PROCON
Need I say it?

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

40 posted on 04/13/2016 3:18:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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