One does not enter this fray on behalf of the Constitution and conservative values without being aware of the daunting numerical odds generated by a Trump Swarm. My replies are made not with a forlorn expectation of convincing cultists but in the hope that a few open-minded lurkers will think for themselves.
You need not read this exchange in its whole, you can read virtually any exchange in this forum and you will see the same syndrome: the Cruz supporter offers facts and reasons from those facts but the Trump Swarm carpet bombs with vituperation much of which is aimed at the messenger in order to divert the open-minded reader from the appalling realities of Donald Trump. You will see them stand history and logic on their heads and embrace fantastic conspiracies. You will see Philistines ape Trump's boorishness and vulgarity.
I do not enter a once great conservative political forum to discuss the weather, I am here to persuade the persuadable. I am motivated to do so out of self respect and out of concern for the fate of my children, my grandchildren, and my great-grandchild. I reproduce below a reply I posted some time ago explaining my opposition to Donald Trump and why despite the certainty of personal insult I soldier on. Although it brutally exposes the character of Donald Trump, the Bill of particulars is not made cavalierly, I am prepared to defend every single one. My comments follow the initial sentence:
General Rhetorical Commet: Hate seeing people go after each other like this. Just ignore it.
I have tried throughout to avoid attacking fellow conservatives although I have vehemently opposed Donald Trump. I have limited my criticisms on the whole to the candidate and not to his supporters individually unless it was necessary to defend myself, which I always undertake to do with vigor. However, immediately before receiving your advice which normally would be well taken, I got this from jpsb:
How does it feel to be an establishment stooge in bed with Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Gram, Paul Ryan, Carly Fiorina, Nicky Haley, Golden Sachs, The Club for Growth and the entire globalist GOPe mega donor class against those of us fighting with Trump to preserve the USA?
This comment alone would not provoke me except that it comes in a train of personal invective. At some point one has to respond to the pure venom incessantly directed at anyone who dares oppose Donald Trump. I choose to do so now by observing that there can be no reconciliation, at least in the primary season, to Donald Trump.
Let me tell you what motivates me to oppose Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is a bully, a coward, a mountebank, a narcissist, a serial liar and an existential threat to conservatism. He is unworthy of the highest office in the world but I have committed to vote for him in the event that he secures the nomination only because his opponents consist of a felonious bitch and a self described socialist. Trump is marginally better than a Saul Alinsky felon and a self-confessed Marxist, even so he is an ignoramus concerning the Constitution and a risky psyche to put in charge of hydrogen bombs. He Is an economic troglodyte who is liable to pitch the country into a Great Depression with ham-handed trade wars.
He has been on both sides of every issue dear to conservatives which means he has at one time or another been wrong on every issue. He is entirely unencumbered by a coherent political philosophy and so rebounds and ricochets from issue to issue and from side to side on issues on an ad hoc basis choosing in stentorian tones that which he in his selfishness perceives will advance Donald Trump. An opportunist without any party loyalty, Donald Trump has been a Democrat, an Independent and now claims to be a Republican. His biography is replete with scandal, social climbing, sleaze, divorce, bankruptcy, fraud, bribery of officials, association with known felons and mafioso, hiring of illegal immigrants and importing of foreign goods for resale in America. Donald Trump made part of his fortune with government deals working inside the system but now shamelessly claims to be an outsider. The man is the walking embodiment of hypocrisy on the hoof. The Donald is an insufferable comb-over egomaniac whose repugnant personality will hinder him from serving the domestic causes you think he believes in and his obnoxious egoism will only antagonize our allies as well is our enemies abroad.
Rather than edify and inspire as the leader of a great people and a great nation should, he is a vulgarian who degrades us all and humiliates us in the eyes of the world. He is not just a blight on our politics but he is a blight on our culture, our civility, and our self-respect. He is intellectually shallow and emotionally petulant. He encourages violence and inspires the very worst behavior from his supporters who ape his manifold character flaws and attack ad hominem Trump's critics rather than deal forthrightly like grown-ups with real and serious issues which confront us.
His very success, as limited as it is demographically in the primary season, nevertheless is harmful to conservatism because it's tells recently elected earnest young conservatives that they cannot trust the conservative base to stand by them if they risk their brand-new careers to oppose the powerful, elitist establishment. They will look at what the sunshine conservative Trump supporters have done to Ted Cruz and, if they are smart, they will play a selfish game.
Donald Trump will lead us into a devastating defeat in the general election because he has antagonized virtually every recognized voting segment of our society with the possible exception of some portion of white males. He misappropriates the record of Ronald Reagan. He pretends that winning 40% in primaries of a Republican Party that consists at best of 40% of the electorate is somehow indicative of an ability to overcome in a general election the worst negatives in modern memory, making him the most hated presidential candidate of the modern era. If nominated he will almost certainly lose the election and generate devastating losses down ticket in his wake enervating conservatism perhaps forever. If he somehow wins the election, the conservative movement might find itself much the worse than if he had lost.
I oppose Donald Trump to maintain my self-respect.
Difficult for you in the best of times I'm sure. Go ahead back Mitt's sock puppet and the GOPe's newest slut.
Clearly, eloquently and persuasively presented. My sincere compliments to you, both for your ability concisely present a powerful case against Trump, and for your courage and willingness to do so in the face of the certain onslaught of venom and vituperation that will come your way from the brainwashed Trumpkin hordes...
I see the Donald as flawed, but not as flawed as you see him. But I see some good in him as well that I don't see in anyone else running.
His flaws are certainly mostly in the areas of pride. And it is not at all a good flaw to have in regard to one's immortal soul. I found it amusing how he said he was proud to be a Christian for example. It did not make me angry though, just amused--being that the point of being Christian is to accept God's grace with humility.
Another flaw that is obvious is he gets childish with losing his temper...to be honest so do a lot of us, but he is one of those that doesn't hide his outbursts when things don't go his way.
Trump is not really a conservative the way Cruz is. He does not come as someone with a defined ideology. Also unlike Cruz, his flaws are obvious. The outside of the cup is not clean as it were.
Up until the incident in Chicago, I was going to vote Cruz in the primary. But now I am certainly going to vote for Trump (in regard to the general election I will vote whomever the nominee is--even if its Genghis Khan). When violent thugs attacked people trying to go to his rally I watched with disgust the media making the violence about Trump and his followers...I did not expect and I was appalled and shocked to watch Cruz, after acknowledging the thugs were in the wrong blame Trump in part. That floored me, and I had to abandon my support of Cruz.
Jesus tells a parable about a man on the dangerous road from Jerusalem to Jericho, who was robbed beaten and left almost dead. Some very upstanding citizens came by, people proud of their standing in the community, and did not help the man because it was easier to just walk on past. But one of those highly despised Samaritans came by and went through a lot of trouble and expense to help the man and put him up in a hotel and paid his bill.
Cruz showed me which kind of man he was.
I have looked into Trump's past. Yeah I see a lot of ego. I see some loose living. And many vices...but he is the kind that stops for the man. And that to me is all the difference.