Trump’s Lies Are a Loyalty Test for His Followers

National Review ^ | April 2, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

[kiryandil]

The worst propaganda sites are the"conservative"treehouse, prntly, and themarshallreport.

I don't have a lock on the Yellow Kid, nor on the yellowjournalism keyword.

Call it as you see it when someone posts an article from one of those sources.

The National sSpew went over the line when they printed their cukservative issue bashing Trump - and when one of their liars posted an article bashing Trump over the veteran charity donations the day of a Super primary.

Real journalists had written an article four days before that detailing what was happening with the money - but the eSpew liar went ahead and posted his lies.

[DrewsDad]

I don't include you in that group

Maybe I need to step up my production. (-;

[kiryandil]

Maybe I need to step up my production. (-;

Try to match their pace. I did, for a couple of days, and found out a few things about what was going on.

I'm a VERY experienced FR poster, and am VERY good - better than they are. But I'm not getting paid, which might make the difference in the pace of the article posting. :)

Now, if I was getting paid, I could keep up a 3-5 daily article stream, with a bit of effort.

You'd also find out why one of them posts in the middle of the night. You've been here long enough to know the competition to get the "first" article on the forum on a particular breaking story.

But that's only during the DAY. At night, the eager beavers are sleeping...

[DrewsDad]

FR is getting a myopic Trump-focused view of the news. Just take a look at the Palin article in Breaking News at this time. It makes it sound as though Palin won the day for Trump when she fell flat with only one applause line about Benghazi in a 20 minute speech.

But, I guess that's the narrow view that the FR Mods and apparently Jim want everyone to see. Anything that praises Trump is breaking news and ones that don't are relegated to cheese-chat.

[kiryandil]

FR is getting a myopic Trump-focused view of the news.

FR is getting a myopic Trump-bashing-focused view of the news.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:conservativejoy/index?tab=articles

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:cincinatuswife/index?tab=articles

Note the smooth handoff on March 26...

[DrewsDad]

And you feel threatened by 2 posts a day?

How many paid Trump folks are there here?

[ifinnegan]

“Trump: “Such an interesting question,” he said. “So what’s your next question?””

Such an interesting answer.

Is this Dowd column real? Did she actually ask him these things and get answers? Like an interview. Or is she just making things up?

[Steelfish]

This is not about “costing” me or you, whatever that means.
A huge Trump loss will ripple down the ballot and put the Senate, the House, and state governors and legislators in grave jeopardy. And of course propel Hillary into the White House. Trump’s negatives at 70% with women who make up 53% of the electorate makes him not only unelectable by an standards, but assures landslides victories for Hillary or Bernie.

And when that occurs, Trumpkins will blame everybody else and their grandmother except themselves. Trump appears to put himself first above country and is willing to risk an independent run to satisfy his ego. Why? Because he truly believes the Trumpkins will morph into Trumpoids even if it means careening over the cliff.

[mlizzy]

Here is the article. Take a look:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/opinion/sunday/trump-does-it-his-way.html?_r=0

[kiryandil]

How many paid Trump folks are there here?

At least one full-timer that I know of.

[kiryandil]

And you feel threatened by 2 posts a day?

Boy, you just don't get it.

[ifinnegan]

It is real.

Thanks.

[DrewsDad]

Is it that you are ticked about not getting paid?

[DoughtyOne]

This is not about “costing” me or you, whatever that means.

It meant that your posts have cost you my potential respect for your thoughts.  I welcomed the reverse from you.  I do not buy into your thoughts here at all.

A huge Trump loss will ripple down the ballot and put the Senate, the House, and state governors and legislators in grave jeopardy. And of course propel Hillary into the White House.

You have evidently bought off on the Left wing media's spin here.  I don't.

At the beginning of the process it was said that Trump's big negatives would prevent him from getting the GOP nomination.  Guess what...

Hillary has big negatives too.  Trump will capitalize on them.

Trump’s negatives at 70% with women who make up 53% of the electorate makes him not only unelectable by an standards, but assures landslides victories for Hillary or Bernie.

I hate to be brutally honest with you here, but Trump is tapping that 53% of the 70% to win the GOP nomination.  What part of this is so difficult for your to grasp?  Did you think the Republican party was a men only club?

Trump is going to come to my state and reintroduce Conservative concepts that have not been presented here since around 1988.

Why do you think the GOPe is so desperate to stop him?  They are afriad he will upend their go along to get along deal with the Democrats.

That ends with Trump, and they are terrified of the outcome.

And when that occurs, Trumpkins will blame everybody else and their grandmother except themselves.

I'm sure it has probably escaped you that all the flames tossed at Trump could be hurting his chances in November.  We tried to tell you that, but you folks would have none of it.  Don't come crying to us when we call you out for what you have done.

Trump appears to put himself first above country and is willing to risk an independent run to satisfy his ego.

This is the logic that destroyes you.  Trump is a presiential candidate leading in the polls and delegate count.  You cast this as him thinking only of himself and not caring antying about the nation.  That is just wigged out logic.  Every candidate stands up for his rights when he has played by the rules and won.  Then you try to besmirch him because he might go third party if the Republican party denies him the nomination after all the people who voted for him, all the delegates he has accumulated.  And who would the Republican party be thinking about, if they deny the winner his victory, the nomination?

The nation?  LOL.  

Why?

Well, if he plays by the rules and does what is rquired to win the nomination, he should by rights be awarded the nomination.  Are you a Conservative, or are you just playing one here?  The Conservatives I know respect rules and playing fairly.

Because he truly believes the Trumpkins will morph into Trumpoids even if it means careening over the cliff.

The only cliff that is going to be run over, will be the one the GOPe/RNC runs over if they deny Trump the nomination when he gets the 1237 delegates.

If they steal it from Trump, it will be the end of the Republican party.  It won't have 50% of it's current registered Republicans going into November if they pull that.

[okie01]

The responses to your post are quite instructive, are they not?

[DrewsDad]

Yes, they are. It might be worth a psychology paper.

The mods or Jim bumped it to cheese-chat.
I've been attacked a few times and my family once.
We heard from the guy obsessed with STD's
We had several pass the loyalty test.
Lots of attacks on National Review and/or Jonah Goldberg
There were numerous agreements and some decent discussion.
There was even an honest response from a Trump suporter who knows he's a liar, but believes he is the one that will take action on the issues important to him.

[okie01]

It has been observed that Trump and the 2008 Obama are similar candidates in that many of their supporters viewed them as empty vessels -- which they filled with the particular virtues and policies they desired. The supporters then became loyal to their perception of what the candidate stood for.

There is, however, a key difference between the two. During his first campaign, Obama acted the "empty vessel" -- promising nothing more than "Hope & Change". Yet, as everybody on this board knew, he was anything but the innocuous figure he claimed to be. He was a Communist believer and a Muslim sympathizer, animated by a vicious anti-American impulse.

Trump, on the other hand, hasn't acted a part -- he has played himself from Day One. There's no telling what he really believes. Indeed, he doesn't appear to know himself. Not so much an "empty vessel" as a "confused vessel". Yet, as with Obama, Trump's supporters are absolutely convinced he believes what they believe -- and he will take action accordingly.

[DrewsDad]

[Robert DeLong]

I wonder if they even realize that Ted went to McAllen Texas (Saturday, July 19th 2014) to hand out “gift baskets” and welcome illegal alien families.

Yet neither one of them see ted for what he really is, a globalist.

This is who they blindly support because they are deluded that he is a conservative. Unfortunately kiryandil, there is no waking up people like this, because they think themselves to be too smart to be fooled.

[conservativejoy]

Cruz actually went there to visit the border with Glen Beck. It was Beck’s initiative with the gifts to the kids.

It amazes me that people blow up something that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, but over look Trump’s policy of handing out citizenship with touchback amnesty.