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Vanity: I'm soliciting advice on starting my own business . . . (It's not an election vanity. Yay!)

Posted on 03/20/2016 2:54:15 PM PDT by goodwithagun

I'm considering starting a CSA, with which I would provide a basket of vegetables from my garden (uncertified organic) to 10 (the first year) families each week for 18 weeks. Using the CSA model, the customers sign up and prepay for the season, knowing the risks of crop failure. I have experience with intensive planting and growing a lot on a little land. Additionally, my neighbor will allow me the use of his field for free . . .


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I know I can produce what I need and I have most of it planned out. I've researched the heck out of it. I don't need gardening advice but business advice. If you own a small business, what would you have liked to know before hand that you didn't? Also, what is your favorite aspect of being a small business owner? Thanks!
1 posted on 03/20/2016 2:54:15 PM PDT by goodwithagun
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Also, what is your favorite aspect of being a small business owner?

As a small, independent owner of a murder-for-hire business, I enjoy the frequent travel and the fact I don't have to pay Obamacare costs for my employees.

2 posted on 03/20/2016 3:02:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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I’m a business owners, started 18 years ago. Sub chapter S corp.

Prepare to leave very lean the first few years.


3 posted on 03/20/2016 3:05:39 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: goodwithagun

I have personal experience with keeping books for self-employed people. The secret to success is MANAGEMENT. Keep track of everything.


4 posted on 03/20/2016 3:05:44 PM PDT by abclily
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To: goodwithagun

Why?


5 posted on 03/20/2016 3:07:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: goodwithagun

No Partners at all... Period.


6 posted on 03/20/2016 3:08:00 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Hmm. Wondering how to label that on taxes for a business expense deduction . . .


7 posted on 03/20/2016 3:08:19 PM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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I don’t know about Ohio, but in CA you would probably be violating multiple regulations and have all kinds of state and local gubmint bureaucrats all over you as soon as they heard. Then some homosexuals would show up and demand that you provide cucumbers for their wedding.


8 posted on 03/20/2016 3:08:21 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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1. Always define an acronym like CSA at least once

2. Write a business plan, especially the financial section for yourself. Check out the Small Business Administration’s website and/or visit your local SBA office or school program for free counseling.

3. Put everything in writing with your customers and with the friend who is going to allow you to use the land.

4. If crops fail, do the customers not receive refunds? If the customers pay by credit card, be prepared for chargebacks. Credit card companies favor customers no matter what your terms.

4. Research thoroughly the legal aspects of selling food products and the liabilities. Same with using the word organic, uncertified or not. Ideally, talk to a lawyer.

5. Taxes: make sure you pay them.

Best business advice: be prepared for 0 profit and worse, losses. Not intended to be discouraging. It’s reality.


9 posted on 03/20/2016 3:08:33 PM PDT by sockhead
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Thanks. I was wondering about that. I’d also be my only employee, as long as CPS doesn’t find out that my kids help lol.


10 posted on 03/20/2016 3:10:07 PM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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To: sockhead

Thanks. I need to check into liabilities insurance, too.


11 posted on 03/20/2016 3:11:13 PM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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Don’t laugh it could happen.


12 posted on 03/20/2016 3:11:57 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: TexasTransplant

“No Partners at all... Period.”

Good advice, especially if you are married to your labor force!!!


13 posted on 03/20/2016 3:14:09 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Things are Definitly a bit more loose in Oh. I actually thought about the religious freedom aspect, and I’d only be selling veg shares through subscription. I don’t have to worry about to whom I provide a service that might interfere with my beliefs; i.e., homosexual celebrations. If homosexuals would like to buy a subscription for a box of food each week they are more than welcome to, but I will have no other services that they can purchase. Isn’t it crazy scary that we have to plan like this?


14 posted on 03/20/2016 3:14:30 PM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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Form an LLC and elect sub S treatment.

Find a successful CSA and model what they are doing so that you don’t try to create it from scratch.

Contract that covers liability issues and contingencies that you cannot control - blight, pestilence, kids choking, under what conditions they can get a refund or partial refund, what happens if they don’t pick it up, etc. Again, get a couple contracts from other CSAs and see what they are doing to protect themselves and how they do the logistics.

Always pay the Mafia first (US Gov’t IRS).

Deduct everything you possibly can that relates to your business, including cell phone, home office, if you have one, materials books, etc. Save every single receipt. I like Expensible for that. Take picture, saved digitally in cloud, create expense reports, etc.

Make sure you are complying with OH and fed government regulations and licenses. You may have to be a licensed farm, sadly. Hire an OH attorney.

Only grow what people want. If they don’t want it, you can’t make them not, not want it.

You better make a wheel barrow full of money to cover your legal and regulatory costs! Or is is just a very expensive hobby.

If you are successful, remember “you didn’t do that!”


15 posted on 03/20/2016 3:25:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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LMAO!


16 posted on 03/20/2016 3:40:46 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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First I'm forced to assume csa means community supported agriculture

Next I'll second TexasTransplant; "No Partners at all... Period.

Been there, done that. Next couple of years we're ending our partnership after some 12 - 13 years. My partner is one of the most honest, Christian, nicest and politically conservative people you'll ever meet. But he resents my drive and motivation. He finds it troubling that I have talents and have produced results where he would be challenged to reproduce or continue the same. I understand the need for a backup plan. But I can't tolerate being held back because I just am who God made me.

Right on! TexasTransplant

17 posted on 03/20/2016 3:41:16 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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This book is supposed to be excellent. Read the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158979799X?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01

Good luck to you!


18 posted on 03/20/2016 4:03:40 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberty for all, and government by us, vs. Anything Else)
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To: goodwithagun

Why sell to ten families when you can sell to one established organic restaurant?


19 posted on 03/20/2016 4:08:20 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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Additionally, my neighbor will allow me the use of his field for free . . .

What could go wrong with that?


20 posted on 03/20/2016 4:17:49 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Darn near killed 'em)
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