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To: UCANSEE2

I’m not suggesting that the other occupant of the vehicle didn’t say that - I’ve never said he didn’t. However, by that point, the cops were going to guarantee compliance by those in the vehicle, so they began shooting flashbangs and teargas or pepper spray. The goal was to make those in the vehicle understand that there was no escape. If these cops were intent on murder, they could have just opened fire on the vehicle and unleashed hundreds of rounds of high-powered rifle ammunition on it as soon as the vehicle came toward the roadblock. That they didn’t do that shows what a lie it is to say the cops just wanted to murder Finicum.


92 posted on 03/09/2016 6:22:04 PM PST by RightFighter (This shttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3406177/reply?c=1pace for rent)
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To: RightFighter

You sir, are full of shit.


114 posted on 03/09/2016 6:35:50 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: RightFighter
I’m not suggesting that the other occupant of the vehicle didn’t say that - I’ve never said he didn’t.

OK, we'll attribute it to a lack of communication on my part. I wasn't clear which person I meant said it, when I first made the comment.

However, by that point, the cops were going to guarantee compliance by those in the vehicle, so they began shooting flashbangs and teargas or pepper spray.

Which only makes one lay flat in the vehicle and pray you live. It does nothing to encourage the occupants to simply open the door, get out with their hands up and surrender. Especially when it continues, and continues, and REMEMBER THIS... those people didn't know whether the cops were using LEAD BULLETS or Pepper spray shot. The sound one hears inside the vehicle is the same and every time they poked their heads up, they were targeted with lasers. What in the hell would make one want to get out of the vehicle , protected by metal, while shots were still being fired ?

The goal was to make those in the vehicle understand that there was no escape.

Of course. Now... there were multiple police vehicles following them, there were multiple police vehicles blocking the road ahead.
They ran off into a deep enough snowbank to halt the vehicle and immobilize it..
They were surrounded by an unknown but large number of COPS/FBI with Swat gear on and there were likely snipers up on the hill above the roadblock.
The driver of the vehicle was laying on the ground dead.

How could they possibly have even thought there was a way to escape ?

Once Finicum was dead, why was there a need to terrorize the other occupants of the vehicle ? None of them were reported to be armed. Three were women. Two were young girls. Couldn't the police have ordered them out of the car, since the vehicle was stuck and the cops had surrounded the vehicle ?

I get what you are saying about 'procedures' and what I'm saying is that police are also supposed to use only the force necessary, are they not ? This was way beyond what was needed, and they knew exactly who the others were in the vehicle. It's not like the cops were afraid they would be surprised or overcome by the occupants.

That they didn’t do that shows what a lie it is to say the cops just wanted to murder Finicum.

Maybe they didn't want to murder him (but wait, you said he asked them to kill him, and they were granting his wish, so... going by that logic, they did want to) but you must admit they did kill him.

173 posted on 03/09/2016 7:32:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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