OK, we'll attribute it to a lack of communication on my part. I wasn't clear which person I meant said it, when I first made the comment.
However, by that point, the cops were going to guarantee compliance by those in the vehicle, so they began shooting flashbangs and teargas or pepper spray.
Which only makes one lay flat in the vehicle and pray you live. It does nothing to encourage the occupants to simply open the door, get out with their hands up and surrender. Especially when it continues, and continues, and REMEMBER THIS... those people didn't know whether the cops were using LEAD BULLETS or Pepper spray shot. The sound one hears inside the vehicle is the same and every time they poked their heads up, they were targeted with lasers. What in the hell would make one want to get out of the vehicle , protected by metal, while shots were still being fired ?
The goal was to make those in the vehicle understand that there was no escape.
Of course. Now... there were multiple police vehicles following them, there were multiple police vehicles blocking the road ahead.
They ran off into a deep enough snowbank to halt the vehicle and immobilize it..
They were surrounded by an unknown but large number of COPS/FBI with Swat gear on and there were likely snipers up on the hill above the roadblock.
The driver of the vehicle was laying on the ground dead.
How could they possibly have even thought there was a way to escape ?
Once Finicum was dead, why was there a need to terrorize the other occupants of the vehicle ? None of them were reported to be armed. Three were women. Two were young girls. Couldn't the police have ordered them out of the car, since the vehicle was stuck and the cops had surrounded the vehicle ?
I get what you are saying about 'procedures' and what I'm saying is that police are also supposed to use only the force necessary, are they not ? This was way beyond what was needed, and they knew exactly who the others were in the vehicle. It's not like the cops were afraid they would be surprised or overcome by the occupants.
That they didn’t do that shows what a lie it is to say the cops just wanted to murder Finicum.
Maybe they didn't want to murder him (but wait, you said he asked them to kill him, and they were granting his wish, so... going by that logic, they did want to) but you must admit they did kill him.
They did kill him. Has ANYONE said that the cops didn’t kill him? They didn’t MURDER him. Huge, huge, chasm of a difference between those two words.
In answer to your other points, I’ll just ask this - what happened when the cops finally stopped? The occupants of the vehicle got out and surrendered peacefully, right? Do you think that, back at the first stop, if Mr. Finicum had decided that he wanted to live to fight another day, he could have surrendered, along with the rest? Or do you think they were going to “murder” him no matter what that day?
Still can't figure out what his goal is. He's a persistent one, even after being outed.
The Oregon State Polioce themselves describe a roadblock as "deadly force".
A roadblock around a blind curve? Deadly force AND an ambushcade.