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To: TexasGator
Didn’t Jacob say that we should not go by the letter of the law but inject a reasonableness criteria?

You can't really be that stupid, can you? Now I know you did not bother to read Justice Jacobs' dissent.

No, Judge Jacobs did NOT say that, the SUPREME COURT of the United States sets what the LAW IS. . . and THEY established what the LETTER OF THE LAW IS. THE US SUPREME COURT SAID IT. . . With Justice Antonin Scalia writing the opinion for the majority. They not only said it, they INSTRUCTED LOWER COURTS they must use that as a criteria in all future antitrust cases! USE THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU! You cannot attribute to Judge Dennis Jacobs what he clearly states and attributes in law to the US Supreme Court.

What the US Supreme Court RULED in the 2007 case of Leegin, 551 U.S., which invalidates ALL CASE LAW THAT PREDATES IT, was how to determine if a particular act WAS or WAS NOT a restraint of TRADE OR NOT. . . and they said:

The Rule of Reason, a principal of LAW, which trumps any statute, and which the US Supreme Court ruled HAD TO BE USED IN APPLE'S CASE AS A VERTICAL PARTICIPANT was ignored throughout this case. Judge Cote cannot simply re-define Apple into being a horizontal defendant by a sweep of her definitional pen! If that were permitted, then the LAW is not the LAW, and it is the the law of whim. It is whatever someone sitting on a bench says it is at the moment, and no one is safe and it cannot be relied on.

If you want to go with the "LETTER OF THE LAW," how is it that Judge Denise Cote can assess a $450,000,000 fine on Apple instead of the "not to exceed $100,000,000" fine absolutely written in the law?

59 posted on 03/09/2016 11:10:09 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

“No, Judge Jacobs did NOT say that, the SUPREME COURT of the United States sets what the LAW IS”

Uh, Congress and the President sets the Law.


63 posted on 03/09/2016 4:40:14 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

“If you want to go with the “LETTER OF THE LAW,” how is it that Judge Denise Cote can assess a $450,000,000 fine on Apple instead of the “not to exceed $100,000,000” fine absolutely written in the law? “

And you claim to be informed on this. LOL

Apple was faced with filings from 33 states and many class actions. Apple agreed to a settlement to minimize their losses.


64 posted on 03/09/2016 4:50:42 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

“A HORIZONTAL conspiracy among competitors at any level to raise prices was ALWAYS to be considered a (per se restraint of trade on its face and the BURDEN OF PROOF is much lower. “

er, Apple engaged in a horizontal conspiracy.


65 posted on 03/09/2016 5:21:13 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

” Such market realities are driving the evolution of antitrust law”

I see you are proponent of ‘living laws’. Are you also a proponent of a ‘living constitution’?


66 posted on 03/09/2016 5:22:23 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

“how is it that Judge Denise Cote can assess a $450,000,000 fine “

I saw no criminal conviction or fine ...


67 posted on 03/09/2016 6:00:33 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

“What the US Supreme Court RULED in the 2007 case of Leegin, 551 U.S., which invalidates ALL CASE LAW THAT PREDATES IT, was how to determine if a particular act WAS or WAS NOT a restraint of TRADE OR “

hmmmmm.... I go with a lawyer over an economist.

http://www.law360.com/articles/674102/apple-e-books-court-sticks-landing-with-tough-antitrust-test

“”I don’t think there’s the slightest support for that,” said Spencer Weber Waller, a professor at Loyola University Chicago School of Law. “He’s putting a lot of emphasis on one line out of context from Leegin. There’s no reason think [the Supreme Court] intended to blow up 100 years of jurisprudence.”


68 posted on 03/09/2016 6:11:48 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Swordmaker

“The US Supreme Court required in Leegin that the Rule of Reason had to apply and that for any company to be found not guilty of restraint of trade, they merely had to show their participation INCREASED COMPETION.”

Leegin was a pure vertical agreement. Does not apply to horizontal agreements.


69 posted on 03/09/2016 6:14:01 PM PST by TexasGator
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