In before....well, you know what.
HHmmmm....I think George W Bush was considered all of those....hhhmmmm...and NO, I haven’t chosen a candidate yet....just making an observation.
“The puzzling trend that has some evangelicals jumping on the Donald Trump bandwagon is puzzling to me. “
If it did not puzzle him, would he think it was a puzzling trend?
This genius is proving the point.
He is applying the qualifications of a church elder to secular elected officials.
All while trying to rebut the arguments of those who have no interest in electing a pastor...
Christ was so beyond reproach they crucified him. The rest of us are all too human. Casting stones?
The idea that we should not care about the moral character of our political leaders is a lie from the pit of hell.
The proof will be the GOPe deciding the vote for Hillary. It will be the only option to salvage the status quo. How will this manifest itself? GOP establishment will start walking back "support the GOP no matter who the nominee is..." quotes...
And calling everyone "racist," "Nazi." and "xenophobic," etc.
One mo’ time. Some history!!
WHY WOULD WE ELECT PRESIDENT A GUY WHO...?
Why would this country elect as president some guy who was known to regale friends with nigger* jokes, grew up with a boyhood hatred of slavery because his father regularly hired him out for heavy manual labor then confiscated his earnings, had a history of depression, was suicidal from time to time (in his defense, probably due to the death of his young son, but suicidal nonetheless) and eventually started an internecine war ostensibly to halt a slavery that was, due to its inherent inefficienty, fading out – and during which he thouroughly trampled the Constitution he claimed he was attempting to preserve – that took the lives of over 700,000 troops and civilians and...
What? Oh, yeah. That was LINCOLN! never mind!
*A corruption of another word now freely used by blacks around the world when referring to one another. To NOT have written the word here would be to accord the dark forces of political correctness an inappropriate and destructive victory of which Orwell’s Thought Police would be proud.
Why would we elect to the presidency and fellow who was well known for his hyperbolic and profane bluster during his campaigns and while in the office and..? That would have been Teddy Roosevelt who, when faced with a recurrance of the trouble with the muslims in the Med that plagued Mr. Jefferson, successfully backed them down.
Why would we elect president some guy who was not healthy and smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day, married his fifth cousin then had a notorious affair with his secretary and...?
What? Oh, sorry, that was FDR!
And why would the American people put in the Oval Office a man who, while overseas running the war in Europe and another 3 pack-a-day smoker, was schtupping his secretary while his wife was back here tending to the family and just prior to D-Day, scheduled a poorly planned, ill-fated live-fire practice for the Normandy invasion (Exercise Tiger) that got over 700 American troops KILLED – HAD THEM BURIED IN A MASS GRAVE – THEN COVERED IT UP!
Oh, sorry. That was Republican DWIGHT EISENHOWER. Moving on...
How about another Democrat whose father was a bootlegger who thought fighting the Nazis was a bad idea but who, to his credit served honorably in the Pacific and managed to get his PT boat sliced in half by a Japanese destroyer but redeemed himself by getting his crew rescued. Running against Nixon in the 1960 race, this same married chap, whose handlers thought he was a bit “tense” before the first televised debate, took him out and got him laid. (That certainly relaxed him as he won the debate.) Once in office, this fellow had numerous extramarital affairs with mob molls and several Hollywood stars, Marilyn Monroe among them and...
Oh yeah. That was JFK. never mind.
(For an interesting aside re. that event and the role a leftist media type played in that debate, please see the footnote below. If you’ve watched the current debates, you understand that THEY STILL DO.)
And then there was this character from Texas who, after his friends counted the ballots and reported him barely ahead in a close race for the Senate, was shocked – just shocked –that the very night before the recount, would you believe it? — the courthouse burned down, destroying the ballots! Like Lincoln, “nigger” was a regular part of his crude vocabulary. This fellow was a notorious womanizer and drunk whose favorite technique for reprimanding errant subordinates was to call them into the lavatory while he moved his bowels. Classy, huh?
Then he...What? You say that was LBJ? never mind.
How in the WORLD could we elect to the presidency some guy who was a 60s socialist radical, later married one even more radical than himself, wangled multiple deferments from MILITARY SERVICE while other kids his age were humping through the bush in Vietnam dodging bullets and who was a woman abuser and engaged in sexual misconduct in the Oval Office with a young intern then, under oath, perjured himself about it and...
What? Oh, right, that was BILL CLINTON! never mind!
But why the heck would we elect some guy raised by grandparents and some pornographer — all three of whom were on FBI “Communist Watch” lists in the 50s and 60s (back when the FBI actually did its job of trying to protect US) – and whose mother posed nude for the pornographer before abandoning her kid and who has openly admitted to have been – and probably still is – a pot head and user of harder illegal substances and whose every action bespeaks a hatred for the nation he allegedly heads...
What? Oh, right. That’s BARACK OBAMA! never mind!
I haven’t researched all the other folks we elevated to the highest elected office in this country. If I did, I’m sure I’d find warts and blemishes on ALL OF THEM. And why would that be? BECAUSE, LIKE YOU AND ME, THEY’RE ALL IMPERFECT HUMAN BEINGS AND ALL FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY.
Until some leftist “journalist” comes up with a fully documented list of reprehensible things MY candidate – who doesn’t drink or smoke and has raised his kids to be responsible, successful adults – has done to other folks, I’ll stick with TRUMP. And until these same media mavens provide me with a list of associates, friends, employees, clients and others he has screwed over and, further, convince me that he is attempting to prevaricate his way into the presidency (as the last guy did!) or that his profession of LOVE for America is as egregious a lie as the last guy told us, I’LL HANG IN THERE WITH TRUMP.
But my support for The Donald is based more on how the current crop (or is that crAp) of political elites and their media lapdogs and handmaidens are GOING NUTS because he is articulating problems in terms WE USE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS OUT HERE IN “FLYOVER COUNTRY”, AND NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW BEST TO ARRANGE THE DECK CHAIRS ON THE FOUNDERING SHIP CALLED “AMERICA”. Add in that he’s the only candidate who doesn’t need the job but, more importantly, DOESN’T NEED DOUGH FROM THE K STREET RENT SEEKERS WHO ROUTINELY BUY YOUR ALLEGED “REPRESENTATIVES” ON CAPITOL HILL and the rough talking, very UNPC, sometimes crude and impolite (read that “imperfect”) and that he has the “establishment” incompetents who created this mess WETTING THEMSELVES, Trump will remain my guy.
A fellow Freeper recently pointed out ANOTHER, rather strong reason for Trump to NOT GO ROGUE once in office:
I posted this:
“That said, should Trump win and go on prove to be but another undercover Judas Goat sent forth to lead us to the final holding pen of the One World totalitarian abattoir, that “explosive reaction” will make the extreme unpleasantness between 1861 and 1865 look like a peace rally!”
To which he replied:”
That’s why, despite what people say what trump will do, I think Trump loves his children and grand-children too much for that to be his legacy to them.”
Might want to toss that into your current equation!
Because the entrenched forces he faces have a 3 way program for dealing with outsiders (1. IGNORE; 2. DISCREDIT; 3. ELIMINATE), all we have to do is pray he REMAINS ABOVE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE through the debates, the election and, hopefully, on to January 20th, 2017 and an inauguration.
Dick Bachert 9/26/2015 (Edited 2/29/2016)
FOOTNOTE:
The 1960 Nixon-Kennedy Debates were directed by one Don Hewitt, creator of CBS’ “60 Minutes”. Hewitt told Nixon, who had a serious “5 O’clock Shadow” (beard, for you youngsters not familiar with that phrase) that he didn’t need to shave just prior to the program. Hewitt then directed the studio lighting to flatter Kennedy while arranging Nixon’s to make him look like an extra from “The Walking Dead”. Not satisfied, Hewitt slowly tightened the shot each time Nixon spoke so that his head loomed and filled the entire screen on TV sets all over the country. And as we all know, things that “loom” are clearly dangerous and should be avoided. The voters did so and, as we all know, Kennedy won.
I need to add that, warts and all, Kennedy did a pretty good job. While he got it completely wrong at the Bay of Pigs, he defused the Cuban Missile show down with the Soviets. And he was moving in the direction of unhooking our monetary system from the Fed (to which we PAY INTEREST on the currency they create from THIN AIR!), had begun speaking out about lowering taxes and getting us out of Vietnam. Some of us believe that’s why some folks blew off the top of his head on November 22, 1963. As with so many events like these, we may never know the truth.
So… are people going to keep on with the torrent of anti-Trump articles all the way up through November, in the schadenfreudic hope of spoiling the outcome into a self-fulfilling prophecy and getting to say “neener, neener, we told you so”?
Looks like you found yet another limp-wristed pussy to tell us what a leader should be like.
Well, Obama fits many of these criteria, so I guess that’s why we haven’t been hearing about what a bad leader Obama is for these past 7 years.
Of course, that same Paul was helping to kill Christians, before he saw the light, and changed his evil ways.
Paul isn't talking about "leaders" in general. He's talking about elders and deacons in the church. The bible has a LOT to say about leaders and it's understood that they're not always men of God that do good and men of God don't always do good.
Think about it ...
So many people have been SAYING things for years with nary a question and now the way they think that brought them to all those conclusions over the years are NO LONGER VALID !!!+
It's like waking up after a lobotomy and a whole SLEW of thoughts no longer exist !
And what of all these Christian endorsements ?
Christians, true, born again Christians have a Spirit of discernment.
I'm not even going to try to explain it except, God has been faithful in guiding me with His thought processes and I trust Him
Those that are lost ... un-saved ... have no such dicernment
The foolishness of preaching confounds the wise
But this strikes me as something akin to the “Mussolini made the trains run on time” argument.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTT!!!!!
Godwin's Law, Mussolini Corollary.
Thanks for playing, David!
Better luck next time, after you get your nasty little bout of TeeDeeEss (TDS). :)
Who cares?
Was the title in Engrish?
Well you're wrong...Paul was writing about the qualifications for elders and deacons. Not political leaders. God has not been shy about raising up very flawed men to do His work on earth.
Sometimes it so happens that caviar isn’t on the menu but K rations are, and copiously.
The most similar situation I see in the bible to our situation today is when Nehemiah cried on the shoulder of Cyrus the Great about his ruined home city, and Cyrus took pity.
Now did Nehemiah start nit picking about Cyrus’ character, or did he take advantage of his special friendship as cup bearer to get as much help as possible for the Jews?
Christians need to begin looking at things from this point of view. If the scarcely believing Donald J. Trump can make this place a lot more friendly for them, and especially for the gospel, they ought not to look a heavenly gift donkey in the mouth. And many aren’t.