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To: Gaffer
when I grew up election day was a 'thing'. Still is for me. I enjoy going to the firehouse and casting my ballot on election day. I know the world is moving past me but I'll hang on to the old things I'm comfortable with for as long as I can. And I'm not REALLY an old fart yet...only approaching 60. And once I hit 60 the old fart appellation gets moved from 70 years old to 80 years old.
99 posted on 02/29/2016 7:36:15 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: pgkdan

Understand. But our State Authority controlling elections isn’t a possible/likely Democrat, and we do fair elections in my county I am sure.


100 posted on 02/29/2016 7:39:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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Interesting how all of the sudden information that should have been common knowledge and could have been made known after Trump entered the race is making news now. I do not believe this to be accidental.

I believe a bad political calculation was made both on the part of the GOP establishment and to a lesser extent on the part of those more likely to support Cruz and other more conservative candidates in the race.

The old guard GOP establishment believed Trump could be used a a means to harm Cruz, Carson, Fiorina, etc., those not in the GOP establishment. Their calculation was that the Trump voter and the voter supporting Cruz and others were one in the same. They did not believe Trump would garner widespread support but did believe he would tear enough support away from others to keep them from becoming serious contenders, paving the way for more palatable candidates.

What I call the Tea Party establishment made much the same poor calculation. They were a bit indifferent to Trump early on, but were happy he brought illegal immigration to the fore, in a manner they could not possibly have done. What they also saw was an opportunity to stop what some saw as the inevitable nomination of Jeb Bush. Trump almost immediately weakened Bush and pretty much destroyed him during the early part of the campaign. The wailing we now see from some of the more conservative commentators on the radio was nowhere to be found shortly after Trump entered the race. All were content to see Jeb Bush be crushed by Trump and by Bush’s own lousy campaigning.

So what have we learned? If you have the means to cut what you perceive to be a dangerous candidate off at the knees, you better do it before that candidate gets to build up a head of steam. Hildebeast made this mistake against Obama. We may be seeing a repetition of this mistake with Trump. Both parties on our side of the fence had the goods on Trump, but chose not to use those goods until way too late. As of now, I think the only way Trump loses the nomination is if he pulls out of the race on his own.


104 posted on 02/29/2016 8:03:27 AM PST by WillVoteForFood
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