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Question on Rule 40
2/28/2016 | LS

Posted on 02/28/2016 3:53:01 PM PST by LS

We have discussed Rule 40 which says, I think, that a candidate must win a majority of delegates in 8 states to have his name put in nomination. You can't just win the state, right?

Do I have this right? So Iowa would NOT count for Cruz, but Nev. would count for Trump?

I forget, what were the splits in NH and SC?


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To: Hugin

I would assume NH counts for trump as well


21 posted on 02/28/2016 4:13:00 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouadsandb)
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To: PUGACHEV

He also won a majority in NH


22 posted on 02/28/2016 4:14:17 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouadsandb)
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To: LS

Guam, Marianas Islands, Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico have all been targeted by Cruz in his strategy to get to 8, so he should get those. Maybe Texas, although getting 50% will be tough. He might get a couple of western states that have caucuses, too (Idaho, North Dakota, Wyoming, Alaska).

But Trump has this in the bag unless something very weird happens. The GOP had been hoisted on their own petard - no other candidate can be nominated for the first ballot, which means no other candidate can be voted for. No other candidates eligible means those delegates who are sworn to other candidates just don’t vote — they have no one to vote for.

The GOP meant to make it a coronation for Bush, and they made it a coronation for Trump.


23 posted on 02/28/2016 4:15:10 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Bernard
“I thought Rule # 40 was - Rule 40: “If it seems like someone is out to get you, they are.””

...And its corollary "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."


24 posted on 02/28/2016 4:15:34 PM PST by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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To: Nifster

No, Trump got 10 of 23 there. But the later states are winner take all, either by total vote or a combination of congressional district and total vote. It shouldn’t be any problem at all for Trump. In fact he is likely to be the only candidate entered for the first vote at the convention.


25 posted on 02/28/2016 4:18:51 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: Nifster

He won 11 of 23 delegates, it was under 50%, it doesn’t count.


26 posted on 02/28/2016 4:20:38 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Hugin

actually he got 11.....so he is missing that half a vote.

Tuesday should make it close to eight anyway


27 posted on 02/28/2016 4:20:42 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouadsandb)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I have been corrected....thanks for the information


28 posted on 02/28/2016 4:22:41 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouadsandb)
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To: LS

Don’t you know that rules are for the little people? Look for them to change or be ignored if the GOPe isn’t getting the desired outcome.


29 posted on 02/28/2016 4:24:46 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: LS

As Jeff Sessions asked at the rally today, whose election is this after all? As he said the big power bosses in Washington claim it for themselves, but they are the servants and they work for us. We are their boss and it is high time they are brought to heel.


30 posted on 02/28/2016 4:35:05 PM PST by iontheball
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To: LS

Politics is more like Rule 34...


31 posted on 02/28/2016 4:37:08 PM PST by null and void (This is "They live", and most people would rather fight you than put on the glasses...)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Many thanks for the info!

So it looks like the string pullers got their strings cut...


32 posted on 02/28/2016 4:38:06 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Don't bet on it.
A Republican candidate needs to win 1,237 of the 2,472 total delegates in order to become the presumptive nominee.
Marco "Gang of Eight PRO-AMNESTY BILL" Rubio's PRIMARY GOAL IS His job is to PREVENT ANYONE from obtaining enough delegates in The 2016 Endorsement Primary, so that
33 posted on 02/28/2016 4:41:03 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Cruz did not get a majority there. Majority means 50+%. He got a plurality which means he got more than anyone else but it did not total 50%.


34 posted on 02/28/2016 4:44:40 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono fThis is shaping up to be an election between Mussolini andeccia.)
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To: LS

Even if they don’t get their names formally nominated, delegates can still vote for Cruz, Rubio, et al.

So far as I can figure, the only thing they lose out on is that they get no nominating speech and no seconding speech.


35 posted on 02/28/2016 4:50:10 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: mak5; LS

So can they um pass a rule that um someone with last name ‘Trump’ can in no way be on the ballot~


36 posted on 02/28/2016 4:54:52 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
It looks like Trump will be the only candidate eligible for the first ballot at the convention.

The RNC -- hoisted on their own petard.

That's gotta chap them.


37 posted on 02/28/2016 4:55:08 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Yosemitest

Let’s imagine the following scenario. Trump gets 1,080 delegates and wins a majority of delegates in 21 contests. No other candidate wins the majority of delegates in more than 5 contests.

Only Trump is eligible to be nominated.

The roll call is taken. Only Trump can be voted for. Trump gets 1,080 votes of 1,080 votes cast.

He wins the nomination. Why? Because he doesn’t need the majority of delegates available, he just needs the majority of votes cast.


38 posted on 02/28/2016 4:55:29 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: scrabblehack

No, delegates that are sworn to vote for a member not nominated cannot vote for a non-nominee. They can be released by the candidate they are sworn to, but they can’t vote for someone not on the ballot. They will just not vote if they are not released.

No write-ins at the convention.


39 posted on 02/28/2016 4:57:32 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: LS

While I’m a Cruz guy, the powers that be better not f this up. The more people Trump has backing him including his former competitors, the less likely GOP Lite will mess with the results.


40 posted on 02/28/2016 4:58:55 PM PST by Mean Daddy
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