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Texas governor Abbott once chased Trump University from Lone Star State
AMI Newswire ^ | February 25, 2016 | Eddie Curran

Posted on 02/26/2016 7:43:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Real estate might not be Donald Trump's strong suit in the Texas primary: Six years ago, the state's Republican attorney general forced his Trump University to pack up and leave.

Trump's embattled property seminar program made an embarrassing retreat when then-Attorney General Greg Abbott, now the state's governor, began investigating it for possible "deceptive trade practices."

That's a challenge as Trump now hopes to win the Lone Star State's Super Tuesday Republican primary.

State polls show Trump and Texas' junior U.S. senator, Ted Cruz, battling for an edge in the March 1 vote. Real Clear Politics' average of polls shows Cruz with 34 percent of the vote to Trump's 27 percent. Abbott this week endorsed Cruz.

Conservative writer Paul Nagy recently went so far as to suggest that Trump - who donated $35,000 to Abbott's 2014 gubernatorial campaign - choose Abbott as his running mate.

"Trump-Abbott, that's a ticket to make America great again and put the fear of God in America's enemies, foreign and domestic!" Nagy wrote in a blog post for The Hill, a Washington, D.C.-based political news outlet.

But observers familiar with Abbott's 2010 confrontation over Trump University might find such an alliance unlikely -- especially because Abbott this week endorsed Cruz.

The "university," which actually was a real-estate training package that awarded no accredited degrees, is now defunct. There are currently three active lawsuits against Trump and Trump University: one by the New York attorney general's office and two related California class actions.

The plaintiffs allege Trump and Trump University defrauded thousands of people throughout the country by selling real-estate training packages, ranging from $1,495 workshops to a "Gold Elite" program that cost up to $34,995, and came with "mentoring" - pledges of personal coaching on real-estate deals from Trump University instructors.

But the first major shot at Trump University came from Texas in January 2010. That's when Abbott's assistant attorney general in the Consumer Protection and Public Health Division, Rick Berlin, began a probe of whether the operation violated Texas' Deceptive Trade Practices Consumer Protection Act.

In a "civil investigative demand" mailed to university corporate offices at Trump's 40 Wall Street address, Abbott's office sought financial records; promotional and advertising material, such as that used to promote Trump University seminars in Texas; talking points and sales scripts used by seminar leaders to encourage people to purchase the paid programs; and names of all Texans who "purchased your workshop or mentoring program" from January 2008 to the present.

Rather than respond and turn over the requested documents, Trump University agreed to cease doing business in Texas.

Later that year, Trump University stopped operations altogether.

Abbott's media staff declined several requests from American Media Institute to comment on the Trump University controversy, or on whether Trump's involvement in the real-estate school raised issues, for Abbott, about Trump's integrity.

The decision by then-Attorney General Abbott's office to investigate Trump University followed a referral by the Better Business Bureau.

In 2008 and 2009, Texas-based BBB offices received some 30 complaints against the program, the severity and number of which prompted Abbott's office to take action.

Two of those complaints are included in court records of the legal cases against Trump and Trump University.

"Trump University and their staff should be ashamed of themselves! They RUINED my credit!!!" wrote Krassin Andreev of Pearland. "They told me I would get my large investment back in my first real estate deal because I would have access to amazing mentors and course content.

"I thought Donald Trump wouldn't have such a sorry excuse for a school just to make more money. The only help for maxing my cards was that I could pay their fee," wrote Andreev, who had paid $16,000 to Trump University.

Evidence produced in the lawsuits shows that people who purchased the $1,495 workshops were asked to provide detailed financial information, including bank balances, and in many cases advised to increase their credit card limits.

The purported reason for requesting this information was to help the instructors determine the amounts the students could afford to invest in real estate.

According to the lawsuits, the real purpose of getting the students' financial information was to determine how much enrollees could afford to pay for the next level - say, $10,000, $20,000, or all the way up to the maximum, $34,995.

Attempts to reach Andreev were unsuccessful. Another Texan who filed a complaint was contacted and asked that his name not be used. In his complaint, the man, from Keller, complained, as did Andreev, that after he paid Trump University, the real-estate "mentoring" services included in the package proved non-existent.

"Is there any wonder I have lost confidence in Trump University?" he wrote. "Instructor resigns in mid-course, a vice president resigns and nobody follows up with e-mails to his address; a woman who answers the phone at Trump U snickers at me."

Trump University attracted customers - not just throughout the country, but also in Canada and Puerto Rico - with promotions and advertisements for free seminars. At these, the materials suggested, Trump's very own get-rich techniques would be taught.

Texas was a hot spot for Trump University, with numerous events in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and surrounding areas.

"The time to invest in Texas real estate is NOW!" proclaimed an ad promoting three Trump University seminars in San Antonio in October 2009.

The ad showed a smiling Trump, under which was the pledge that attendees would "learn from Donald Trump's hand-picked experts."

Another, promoting September 2009 events in Houston and Sugar Land, contained what reads as a personally written, signed letter by Trump. It includes the statement:

"Come to my free class. In just 90 minutes, my hand-picked instructors will share my techniques, which took my entire career to develop. Then, just copy exactly what I've done and get rich."

Trump subsequently admitted, in a September 2012 deposition, that he had no role in choosing instructors or designing the curriculum. He was unable to answer basic questions about the program's curriculum.

The main purpose of the seminars was to sell the $1,495 workshops. And a key purpose of the workshops was to make the big sell - for the Gold Elite program.

The big draw for the expensive follow-up programs was the "mentoring," which, according to the complaints, frequently failed to materialize.

Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks said that, because the subject remains an active legal matter, questions about Trump University should be addressed to Trump Organization counsel Alan Garten.

Garten did not answer questions e-mailed to him or prior e-mails forwarded to him from Hicks.

The January 2010 civil investigative demand letter from Abbott's office included a request for all documents related to Trump University's instructor/salesman Steve Goff.

Goff, a self-described real-estate expert and motivational speaker, was particularly active in Trump University's Texas operations.

On his LinkedIn page, the Houston-based Goff claims that he worked in "the Trump Building at 40 Wall Street in NYC as the only Real Estate Coach to Donald's Clients and Students."

According to Goff, in his job as "real estate coach and mentor," he conducted more than 1,000 free seminars and more than 300 workshops in "every major U.S. city for Trump."

One of the named plaintiffs in the California class action is Ed Oberkrom, a 65-year old Missouri man.

According to court records, Oberkrom contends that he agreed to pay $25,000 to Trump University after already paying $1,500 for a workshop. Oberkrom claims that he purchased the Elite program largely because Goff told him he had family in the St. Louis area and would be there frequently to "mentor" Goff and help him with real-estate deals.

This "mentoring" pledge failed to materialize. When Oberkrom requested a refund, Trump University refused.

In an e-mail, Goff disputed this account. "I did not serve as Ed's mentor," he wrote. According to his LinkedIn profile, in 2009, Goff won the Trump University "top sales award" four years in a row.

In 2007 - in the middle of his tenure with Trump's company - Goff filed for bankruptcy. He cited at least $759,000 in debts against less than $20,000 in assets.

Goff, in his e-mail, said that his bankruptcy had "nothing to do with Real Estate," implying that it was unfair to cite his bankruptcy when discussing his qualifications to teach real estate.

Goff's bankruptcy lists his profession as real-estate consultant. It shows that a substantial portion of his debt involved his personal obligations on real-estate mortgages.


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With GOP nomination looming, Trump is slated to take witness stand in fraud trial

"Here's a part of the political calendar that nobody in the Republican Party seems to have noticed: This spring, just as the GOP nomination battle enters its final phase, frontrunner Donald Trump could be forced to take time out for some unwanted personal business: He's due to take the witness stand in a federal courtroom in San Diego, where he is being accused of running a financial fraud.

In court filings last Friday, lawyers for both sides in a long-running civil lawsuit over the now defunct Trump University named Trump on their witness lists. That makes it all but certain that the reality-show star and international businessman will be forced to be grilled under oath over allegations in the lawsuit that he engaged in deceptive trade practices and scammed thousands of students who enrolled in his "university" courses in response to promises he would make them rich in the real estate market.

Although the case has been winding its way through the courts for the past five years - and Trump has denied all wrongdoing - the final pretrial conference is now slated for May 6, according to the latest pleadings in the case. No trial date has been set, but the judge has indicated his interest in moving the case forward, the pleadings show.

"This is pretty amazing," said Scott Reed, a veteran Republican Party consultant, about Trump's upcoming due date in federal court. "Usually, you clean this stuff up before you run for president."............................

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........."Trump has made little secret of his inclination to strike back hard - on the campaign trail and in the courts - against anybody who opposes him. But the secret deposition in the San Diego case calls attention to the danger that a Trump presidency could turn into what one lawyer who has sued Trump called a "litigation circus" in which a sitting president would be forced to submit to multiple depositions and even jury trials as a result of ongoing civil lawsuits.

Little noticed while he has emerged as the Republican frontrunner for president, Trump remains mired in litigation on multiple fronts. In addition to defending the Trump University suits, he has initiated legal action in the past year against restaurateurs and the Univision network after they pulled out of business deals over his comments about Mexican immigrants. He has also recently threatened to sue rival Ted Cruz on the grounds that he is not eligible to be president because he was born in Canada. At a CNN forum Thursday night, in response to a question about his propensity to threaten opponents with lawsuits, Trump replied, in part, "I have wonderful lawyers. I like to send letters."

Just last week - three days before Makaeff made her court filing - a judge in Washington, D.C., overruled the objections of Trump's lawyers and ordered him to submit to a deposition in a suit he filed against one of the restaurateurs.

As Yahoo News noted in August, none of these cases would go away were Trump elected president. In 1997, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that presidents are not immune from civil litigation while in office, rejecting Bill Clinton's claim that he should not be subjected to a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by a former Arkansas state employee, Paula Jones."

1 posted on 02/26/2016 7:43:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Abbott is just upset because he was denied admission.


2 posted on 02/26/2016 7:45:26 AM PST by patq
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

3 posted on 02/26/2016 7:49:02 AM PST by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: patq

Guilty before proven innocent. Must be A new kind of justice.


4 posted on 02/26/2016 7:49:35 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (My first choice is Trump he knows economics and tricks politicians use to line their pockets. Cruz2)
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To: patq

This isn’t funny.


5 posted on 02/26/2016 7:49:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“They RUINED my credit!!!” wrote Krassin Andreev of Pearland”

They did. ROTFLMAO!!!!


6 posted on 02/26/2016 7:50:46 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That you post this stuff day after day after day & Trump keeps winning & winning is righteously hilarious :)


7 posted on 02/26/2016 7:51:09 AM PST by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: TheStickman

Just wait - the Dems are going to get into the WH if Trump is the nominee.


8 posted on 02/26/2016 7:51:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: patq

[Abbott is just upset because he was denied admission.]

Maybe Trump University was not handicapped accessible...


9 posted on 02/26/2016 7:52:09 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“This isn’t funny.”

Of course it is. What makes it even more hilarious is that it’s your thread. AGAIN!


10 posted on 02/26/2016 7:54:43 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Great Conservative as now SWERVED to support the 8Gang Cabana Boy.

Cruz is now the Great Conswervative.


11 posted on 02/26/2016 7:55:47 AM PST by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: TheStickman

It’s the new issue of our time!

Nevermind American’s concerns about security, immigration, and the economy.

These guys see Trump U. as what the people care about! Freaking slow news day AM talk radio level crap.

And then when they look and see that people DO NOT CARE, then they get together and bitch like babies calling them “stupid” and “drinking the kool-aid”.


12 posted on 02/26/2016 7:55:54 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: moehoward

I guess that says more about you than it does about me.


13 posted on 02/26/2016 7:56:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mommy, grandma CW is going bats^&^ crazy again while on the computer. Why does she have that bottle of wild turkey and a straight razor next to her?


14 posted on 02/26/2016 7:57:26 AM PST by rineaux
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I sincerely and truly hope you never utter one word or support for D. Trump. Your track record is 100%


15 posted on 02/26/2016 7:57:27 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seems like Trump was running something similar to the “Player’s club” scheme that Telly Savalas was the face of back in the 80’s and 90’s. That scam was all over Atlantic City, I think I went to that seminar once in the Trump casino.


16 posted on 02/26/2016 7:57:35 AM PST by sox_the_cat
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Trump University was a classic “bait and switch” con. At the end of an expenditure of up to 34,000 dollars, the student ended up with no useable additional knowledge except possibly how to avoid a fraud in advance. If this doesn’t give a Trumpett pause for concern about their candidate, nothing will.

I’ve been cautioning about this fraud for a long time but apparently to no avail.


17 posted on 02/26/2016 7:58:14 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: VanDeKoik

That’s no argument.

The other candidates are NOT ignoring the other issues.

How you can promote this man is beyond comprehension.


18 posted on 02/26/2016 7:58:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Dems will have a field day with “Trump University”


19 posted on 02/26/2016 7:58:59 AM PST by gdani (Write a check to Al Sharpton? Automatic disqualification.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

LOL!!! Is that the best you can do?

Of course it is.


20 posted on 02/26/2016 7:59:20 AM PST by moehoward
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