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This article makes a very good point. Rubio and Cruz successfully attacked Trump on many issues. However, the most serious wound that Trump suffered tonight might have been on his hypocrisy about foreign workers.

Trump is running as a strong nationalist who wants to bring back American Jobs. However, when challenged on his history of hiring foreign workers instead of Americans Trump immediately ran with the pro illegal immigration argument that they were doing jobs that Americans wouldn't do. Here is another section of the article which quotes Trump making this pro foreign worker argument.

""As far as the people that I’ve hired in various parts of Florida during the absolute prime season, like Palm Beach and other locations, you could not get help. It’s the up season. People didn’t want to have part-time jobs. There were part-time jobs, very seasonal, 90-day jobs, 120-day jobs, and you couldn’t get. Everybody agrees with me on that. They were part-time jobs. You needed them, or we just might as well close the doors, because you couldn’t get help in those hot, hot sections of Florida."

And he elaborated during his second sit-down with CNN after the debate:

"On the Palm Beach thing – it’s very, very hard – you know Palm Beach, you probably do know Palm Beach, you may know Palm Beach, I hope you do know Palm Beach – it’s hot as a pistol. You cannot get help during the season. The season goes from like October ’til March. It’s almost impossible to get help. And part of the reason that you can’t get – you know, American people – they want full time jobs. This is a four-month, five-month job. [An hour earlier, it had been a 90-day, 120-day job -- MK] They want long-term jobs, they don’t want this. So, we do hire some people, but we have to bring people in because it’s the season and you can’t get people. It’s pretty simple. And by the way, I do it legally. You know it’s done through a process. You know, we sign documents, we sign all sorts of papers, they come in totally legally, they come in from different parts of the world. But we have no choice.""

Read the rest of the article at http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431960/trump-debate-foreign-workers

1 posted on 02/25/2016 10:45:29 PM PST by dschapin
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No that would be Ted Cruz

From his own Senate website

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=137

Sen. Cruz Presents Measure to Strengthen, Improve Legal Immigration
Offers amendment to increase H-1B visas to help improve, retain high-skilled labor force
May 14, 2013
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press@cruz.senate.gov / (202) 228-7561

WASHINGTON, DC U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) today presented an amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration bill that would improve our nation’s legal immigration system by increasing high-skilled temporary worker visas, called H-1B visas, by 500 percent. The measure would effectively address the needs of our nation’s high-skilled workforce by helping meet the growing demand for workers in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. It will also make block grants available to states to promote STEM education efforts and increase domestic STEM professionals. The committee voted against the amendment 4 to 14 with every Democrat voting against it on a party-line vote.


2 posted on 02/25/2016 10:48:04 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: dschapin

Trump should run:

Stop all immigration except by hot Eastern European women!


3 posted on 02/25/2016 10:49:15 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: dschapin

Trump’s reasoning to hire these foreign workers makes sense to me. Being from a construction family and worked those long hot summers, I know how hard it is to get help when it is needed. Construction work is no piece of cake and those who manage it do a difficult job.


4 posted on 02/25/2016 10:51:20 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....National Review on schedule with their Trump BS.

You do realize National Review is a joke, don't you?

Are they still pushing Romney?


5 posted on 02/25/2016 10:51:30 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Ted Cruz, please beat Rubio)
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To: dschapin

I don’t care if they work. I just don’t want them voting.


6 posted on 02/25/2016 10:51:44 PM PST by RC one (I will vote for the Republican nominee period. end of story.)
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So how is something that allegedly happened over 35 years ago “breaking news”? Especially coming from the Ted Cruz Fan Club Magazine?


11 posted on 02/25/2016 10:53:42 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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So people like Rubio are too lazy to work for Trump.

What happened to Rubio’s immigrant work ethic? He’s never held a real job.


21 posted on 02/25/2016 11:05:13 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal ( REINCE PRIEBUS: Yeah, but no...you google Ted Cruz ... and immigration...Those are his words,)
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I’m more amused that a son of immigrants is complaining about temporary workers on work visas.


28 posted on 02/25/2016 11:23:18 PM PST by blueplum
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trumpsters will make excuses.

Trump doesn’t practice what he preaches!! Does trump’s non-US businesses have more Americans hired there????

How many Americans does trump employ????


30 posted on 02/25/2016 11:24:35 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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GOPe Announce Plans To Go "Full Mississippi"
on Donald Trump To Destroy Him





When little known Chris McDaniel beat entrenched RINO U.S. Senator Thad Cochran in the first Mississippi primary of 2014 it triggered a series of events that became known simply as
"Mississippi 14"


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The entrenched DC republican elite developed a plan to destroy McDaniel before the run-off primary. They decided to call McDaniel a racist, pay for print and broadcast attack ads, request help from black Mississippi pastors, and pay Democrats, preachers and voters to vote in the run-off election. Republicans in DC attacking a republican outsider.

Their Machiavellian plan worked.

In the run-off Chris McDaniel again beat Thad Cochran with Republican voters, but the paid-to-vote Democrats lifted Cochran back onto the throne in the elite Republican Chamber.

Against the desperation of a South Carolina victory for Donald Trump, and now a Nevada victory for Donald Trump, the DC Republican team have re-enlisted the exact same players to roll out a similar nuclear attack approach against the outsider Republican.

Appearing on Bloomberg News the former Mississippi architect, Stuart Stevens, and Mississippi financier/bag-man, Henry Barbour, who carried out the Mississippi Strategy , openly admit their intent to use the same level of vitriol to remove Donald Trump.

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(L-R) Stuart Stevens – Mark Halprin – Henry Barbour


See the Video Here (at 23:10) as Stuart Stevens and Henry Barbour are assembled again to discuss the process of “taking down Trump”. Stevens fully admits to the Mississippi 2014 strategy and how it will work in 2016 against Donald Trump.

So how do they do it? Simple, it's war. A thermonuclear political war. There are no boundaries, there are no rules, there is nothing too far, there is nothing held back.

They run attack ads, they'll shout names and make up malicious smears; they'll follow the candidate around to make noise at rallies; they lie about anything and everything; they'll pay anyone and everyone to assist, and they don't care if the high-information voter knows what they are doing; it's all part of the overall scorched earth plan.

They'll pay people to do and say anything, ANYTHING. Winning is all that counts. Destroying the opponent is all that matters. Every means justifies that end. Period.

The GOPe have already hired actresses and actors to appear in the attack ads and to make personal appearances, as actors, during Trump events. The hiring agency is Talent Direct Agency (TDA). The actors and production teams are working out the script details right now.

More than likely the construct begins tomorrow with the CNN debate. Expect a full media assist from an ideological corporate media empire who also has skin in the game and corporate ownership who also see candidate Donald Trump as a risk.

A thrilled attendee for the bloodbath, NRO's Charles Cooke, puts it this way:

charles cooke[…] Tomorrow night, as they stand on either side of Trump, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz must find their resolve and all-but-machine-gun the man to the floor.

Without breaks for water or silence for applause, they must explain that Trump is an entitled mess whose business record is so questionable that he managed to bankrupt a casino; that he is an unashamed fraud who didn't even wait to be elected president before folding on Planned Parenthood and Obamacare, exactly like the feckless Congress he is running against; that he is feigning religiosity to appeal to people he believes are rubes; and, above all, that whatever he may be pretending now, he has spent a lifetime screwing the little guy.

They must repeat verbatim his previous words on amnesty; they must outline in detail how his policies will make life worse for everyone; and they must point out that a Trump nomination designed to "mix things up" will result, eventually, in more of the same.

In the meantime, conservatives who are not running for president must ensure that every spare dollar is spent attacking Trump. Melt down the fences if you have to; we need long-range bombers here.

If Donald Trump can flood the airwaves with his nonsense, his opponents can counter it incessantly. And while they are at it, they can tie him up in court, just as he's trying to do to Cruz. There are a good number of "just asking" questions ready to be put to them, among them "Trump's mother was Scottish, can he really be president?" and "Trump ran a host of scams designed to rip off the poor; surely one of them would like to sue him?"

Thus far, part of Trump's media strategy has been to say something outrageous and then to move on before it can be rebutted or fact-checked. Why are his rivals not doing the same thing to him? Why, moreover, are the men in charge of the big guns all but flirting with the snipers on the other side? (read more)

Perhaps now you can better appreciate why Mitt Romney is joining the effort and throwing anything against the wall to see if it will stick:

On Wednesday's "Your World" on FOX News, former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney told Neil Cavuto that Donald Trump's tax returns may prove he hasn't been honest about his money.

Romney suggests the bombshell could include him lying about his wealth or that he has not made all those charity donations he claims to have made.

(link)

You see, it doesn't actually matter if there's any truth to the claim, the goal is to create an absurd hurricane wind of inbound attacks driven with increasing ferocity by the corporate media who will demand the candidate to respond.

In Mississippi 2014 Chris McDaniel was not racist, nor was there anything remotely linking him to anything racist; the goal is to push the candidate away from their campaigning, the truth is irrelevant.

Once the GOPe force the candidate away from campaigning, then they begin selling the false story and using the actors/actresses, or preachers, to deliver an outcome.

By the time the next debate on Fox comes around, well, it'll be peak DEFCON-5 thermonuclear political button pushing because, quite simply, they have nothing to lose.

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39 posted on 02/26/2016 12:04:10 AM PST by onyx (YOU'RE POSTING HERE, HOPE YOU'RE A DONOR! FReepLoaders are RUDE)
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The Truth Behind Donald Trump Hiring "Temp H-2B Visa Workers" in Florida

Posted on February 25, 2016, by sundance


In what they call a “Reuters Exclusive” the news agency tries to undermine Donald Trump’s candidacy because Trump businesses have used H-2B Visa applications to hire workers. This is an absolute joke, we’ll explain why.

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Reuters Screenshot

Why this is a nothingburger – Those unfamiliar with the South Florida general labor market are most likely unfamiliar with the extreme swings in “seasonal need” workers.

Does the word “Snowbird” ring a bell? Florida has a “tourist season” which runs from (generally speaking) just after Thanksgiving to Easter annually. January, February and March are the peak. The first Monday in February is the absolute peak as almost every time-share and hotel unit flips that week.

The volume of work within the service and hospitality industry doubles during the tourist season, and those businesses who hire within the general labor market struggle to increase their labor in relationship to the increase in business. In addition, local workers looking for employment are reluctant to take temporary or “seasonal” jobs, and prefer longer term -more stable- employment.

Many businesses need to double, or in some cases triple, their workforce in order to meet the business demand. [In 2014 97,300,000 tourists visited Florida].

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As a consequence many companies, including Trump owned resorts, have used H-2B visa workers to fill the gap between large fluctuations in business and the needed staffing shortfalls. From my own experience, many of the workers are students from South America (Argentina, Brazil, etc) who take the seasonal jobs Nov/Dec – March/April between their college seasons – and then return home.

In addition you’ll note the dates of the Reuters data:

Trump owns companies that have sought to import at least 1,100 foreign workers on temporary visas since 2000, according to U.S. Department of Labor data reviewed by Reuters. Most of the applications were approved, the data show. (link)

“2000 through 2015” Another factor – During the timeframe of 2000 to 2007 the seasonal hiring problem was compounded by the boom in the housing market and overall thriving U.S. economy. Any generally healthy worker, who could swing a hammer, could triple their income switching to the housing or building sector.

Bartenders, waiters/waitresses, housekeepers, maintenance and general workers left the hospitality industry to make $25-$40hr in low skill construction jobs. The H-2B visa use increased at the same rate to help fill the worker void. Actually, the H-2B visa use initially started gaining wide-scale acceptance exactly for this reason. The economy was good, workers were scarce and demand for workers greater than the labor market.

[…] The Labor Department records don’t specify the nationality of the foreign workers sought by companies. But Trump could be bringing many Mexican workers into the United States.

Reuters examined records of applications for three categories of temporary work visas – the H-2A, H-2B and H-1B programs – submitted by employers to the Labor Department.

The temporary work visa program through which Trump’s companies have sought the greatest numbers of workers, H-2B, brings in mostly workers from Mexico. Mexicans made up more than 80 percent of the 104,993 admissions to the United States on H-2B visas in 2013. The Trump companies have sought at least 850 H-2B visa workers.

The H-2B program, which receives little government oversight, is used by companies in sectors ranging from hospitality to forestry to hire foreign workers for temporary jobs. Companies must prove that the jobs are seasonal – and that they tried and failed to hire Americans.

U.S. government watchdogs have criticized the H-2B and H-2A programs over the years for failing to protect foreign and American workers alike.

[…] The Mar-a-Lago, a luxury resort in Palm Beach, Florida, has sought the most foreign workers of the nine Trump businesses: 787 workers since 2006, according to the data.

This month, the resort filed paperwork seeking to bring in 70 foreign workers later this year on H-2B visas to serve as maids, cooks and wait staff, according to paperwork known as “job orders” published on the Labor Department’s web site. (read more)

See?

The entire article is a nothingburger once you understand the issue at hand. Palm Beach, Florida tourism season doubles, and at times triples, the business not only for Donald Trump resorts, but for every business in/around the host and hospitality sector.

Palm Beach, like many South Florida areas even have celebrations when the “snowbirds”, “frog heads”, and “tourons” go home at season’s end.

Reuters is trying to make a regional common practice seem like something rather controversial. The FAIL is strong on this one.

 

41 posted on 02/26/2016 12:26:53 AM PST by onyx (YOU'RE POSTING HERE, HOPE YOU'RE A DONOR! FReepLoaders are RUDE)
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“Jobs Americans won’t do”

For taking the same position John McCain rightly took broadsides for it years ago, but many of the same people who schwacked him for it somehow find rationale for Trump’s hiring of (legal and sometimes illegal) workers, either directly or via subcontractors..

Last night Trump was “bigly” (remember his laughable use of THAT “word?”) exposed for the hypocrite that he is, but that won’t faze his supporters. They’re far too emotionally invested in him now.


46 posted on 02/26/2016 1:47:28 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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48 posted on 02/26/2016 3:28:27 AM PST by Donglalinger
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Kirkorian is the head of Center for Immigration Studies. I have gotten emails from this organization for many years.


49 posted on 02/26/2016 4:09:47 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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I don’t think it hurts Trump at all. I. The end scRubio is still the amnesty candidate and Cruz, well, I hope he can get his act cleaned up and get rid of those GOPe trolls misleading his campaign.


51 posted on 02/26/2016 4:17:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Seasonal work is the toughest area to find enough American workers, whether in agriculture or the tourist/resort industries. The barking hyenas haven’t found the big issue they think they’ve found.


53 posted on 02/26/2016 5:00:18 AM PST by Will88
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To quote someone who won big time, "There you go again">

I't really pitiful that so many here have either comprehension or honesty problems.

He said a lot more about the deal and gave some clarification to include barring most from ever becoming citizens - perhaps if one would read all the words and actually think about them so they can be used in context, one wouldn't have shoe-sole dirt running down one's chin...

54 posted on 02/26/2016 5:24:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Enough said?

55 posted on 02/26/2016 5:26:04 AM PST by McGruff (The Trump Train is coming down the tracks. Get onboard or get run over.)
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"It's almost impossible to get help."

Not at the wages you're willing to pay, The Donald - so like every Free Traitor who whines about finding workers, you hop on the Cheap Labor Express.

56 posted on 02/26/2016 7:05:26 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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