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1 posted on 02/22/2016 8:38:44 AM PST by C19fan
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As a FYI, the recent proposed Defense Dept budget zeroed out research for long range strike drones.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 8:39:21 AM PST by C19fan
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There are areas aircraft carriers can operate, and areas they should not go. This has been the case since 1941. Aircraft carriers are intended to project power against inferior land opponents or to secure the vast ocean areas.

The idea that one U.S. Navy carrier group, or even several of of them, can operate long in close proximity of a major land power like China or Russia is military suicide.


3 posted on 02/22/2016 8:41:36 AM PST by henkster (Hillary Clinton's supporters are beginning to re That'll keep alalize they are fettered to a corpse.)
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Time for the USAF to step up, and dominate from space.


5 posted on 02/22/2016 8:42:18 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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While Obama and his Marxist Muslims fiddle the world burns


6 posted on 02/22/2016 8:42:49 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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From the Report:

“Operating the carrier in the face of increasingly lethal and precise munitions will thus require the United States to expose a multi-billion dollar asset to high levels of risk in the event of a conflict,” the report says. “An adversary with A2/AD capabilities would likely launch a saturation attack against the carrier from a variety of platforms and directions. Such an attack would be difficult - if not impossible - to defend against.”

The United States “must re-examine the relevance of the carrier and its air wing and explore innovative options for future operations and force structure,” the report concludes. “If the United States is to maintain its military superiority well into the future, it cannot afford to do otherwise.”


7 posted on 02/22/2016 8:43:38 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Seems wide to plan for the next era of battlefield supremacy. We’ve been using Carriers for nearly a century. At some point the current concept becomes a horse and buggy scenario.


8 posted on 02/22/2016 8:47:33 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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When will a fighting ship of the line be named the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama?


14 posted on 02/22/2016 8:52:59 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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15 posted on 02/22/2016 8:54:01 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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1. Aircraft carriers have never had unchallenged primacy. Never. That is why the Navy has SSNs, DDGs, and CGs, and why we still have overlapping capabilities with the USAF.

2. Most people on Earth live withing striking distance of a CVNs airgroup. Aircraft are still important in winning wars and the USAF cannot adequately support our interests from the land bases we have access to.

3. If we didn’t think that losing a CVN was a real possibility in a big war, we wouldn’t have so many of them.

4. In the hey day of carrier warfare, CVs could not just sail straight to Japan, even at the beginning of 1945. War against an able aggressor requires a series of strokes to before you can place your forces at the threshold of the final targets.

5. The best force mix is always moving target. Going forward, we may need a larger number of smaller CVs.


22 posted on 02/22/2016 9:17:22 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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We continue to give or allow others to steal our technology everyday in the name of diversity and coexist, not to mention we subsidize most of the rest of the works military spending via our trade policy and globalization.


23 posted on 02/22/2016 9:24:01 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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The United States aircraft carriers have always been an almost untouchable deterrent, steel behemoths capable of projecting the full weight of the U.S. military wherever they deploy. Yet while many militaries could never hope to match the U.S. carrier fleet in size and strength, countries such as China, Iran and Russia have spent recent years adjusting their forces and fielding equipment designed to counter one of the United States greatest military strengths.

They better think about the Ohio class subs before they mess with our flattops, especially if Trump has the code.

Good morning, Tehran!!!


25 posted on 02/22/2016 9:30:40 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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Chinese anti-ship ballistic missiles have never hit a stationary ship, much less a moving one. Paper Dragon.

Anti-ship cruis missiles are another story.

49 posted on 02/22/2016 2:56:33 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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