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Serious Question
Freerepublic ^ | 02/21/2016 | bolobaby

Posted on 02/21/2016 1:42:04 PM PST by bolobaby

Here is a serious question I want everyone to consider:

When Trump announced his presidential run on June 16th of 2015, if he had announced he was running for the DEMOCRATIC nomination, would it have be unbelievable? Could he have positioned himself as a "moderate" democrat and gotten away with it? Would his history have supported that kind of announcement?


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To: Cobra64

When he talks about his “big, beautiful door” in the wall, he is saying, “Once we get them out, it will be easy for them to get back in, so long as they follow the process.”

Have you never seen him talking about a big, beautiful door...?


81 posted on 02/21/2016 4:04:00 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: PJBankard

The vanity is meant not to instigate, but to make people think about the possibility and what would have happened if he had.

The truth - which may be hard for some to swallow - is that Trump probably could have run as a democrat and no one would have considered it as unbelievable as, say, Cruz running as a democrat.


82 posted on 02/21/2016 4:05:57 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Talisker

Outed myself as what?


83 posted on 02/21/2016 4:06:23 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: sargon

I know, scary, right? He’ll get elected for sure and then betray conservatives in every possible way imaginable. Then, when the country goes to pot, the democrats will sit back, laugh, and blame *conservatives* even though Trump really isn’t one. This is how conservatism effectively dies.

I sure hope he never figures out how to be effective with his attacks.


84 posted on 02/21/2016 4:08:35 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

Well, when you are done with your crystal ball, please let me know.


85 posted on 02/21/2016 4:09:35 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: bolobaby

omg give it up already.


86 posted on 02/21/2016 4:10:23 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Talisker

I don’t like Trump. I don’t hide that. As such - yes - this post is meant to undermine the (D)onald by pointing out the obvious: that he could have run as a “moderate” democrat and few would have thought otherwise.

As far as kicking illegals out, to achieve buy-in from the democratic base, all he would have had to do is talk about how illegals were taking American jobs, especially UNION jobs.

Finally, as mentioned several times on this thread, The Wall(tm) is one issue. A moderate can disagree on one issue and still claim party affiliation.


87 posted on 02/21/2016 4:13:10 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
Outed myself as what?

Hillary's property, what else?

88 posted on 02/21/2016 4:13:15 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: JoSixChip

What else is the “big, beautiful door” besides touchback amnesty?


89 posted on 02/21/2016 4:13:47 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
As far as kicking illegals out, to achieve buy-in from the democratic base, all he would have had to do is talk about how illegals were taking American jobs, especially UNION jobs.

Nonsense. That's hardly a new concept. Democrats want government benefits. If they could connect the dots on losing union work, the illegals would be long gone. And Hillary's idiots don't give a damn anyway.

90 posted on 02/21/2016 4:16:08 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bolobaby
What else is the "big, beautiful door" besides touchback amnesty?

Enforcement of preexisting immigration laws, for one. Combined with automatic exclusion of illegals who don't leave voluntarily first, and wait to get deported.

91 posted on 02/21/2016 4:18:07 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bolobaby
Impossible. The issues he hits in each and every speech are not those of the Democrats:
build a wall, stop Muslim invaders, get rid of commoncore & obamacare, protect the 2nd
Amendment, build the military, lower taxes, stop political correctness, stop the EPA from
dictating what we can/can't build.

Now, some of the issues have crossover appeal, and to this extent could pertain to
Democrats: unfair trade, jobs overseas, protection of our own job base, get out of the
endless ME wars, Iraq a mistake.

Although the appeal is to Reagan Democrats & blue dogs & independents, in addition to
Conservatives, his primary impulse is that of a Conservative: freedom from government
interference and regulation across the board.
92 posted on 02/21/2016 4:29:22 PM PST by jobim
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To: concerned about politics
He used to brag about how many illegals he hired before he decided to run on the Republican ticket. That's how compassionate he was. He would still be bragging right now if he were on the democrat ticket instead.

I don't believe you...Provide documentation...

In response to questions from The Washington Post, Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, issued a statement saying that the company and its contractors followed all applicable U.S. immigration laws when hiring the site’s several hundred workers.

“Our contractors are required to have prospective employees produce documentation that establishes identity and employment eligibility in compliance with immigration law,” the ­e-mailed statement said.

Lend Lease, the lead contractor at the site, “requires all contractors performing work at the project to follow all applicable federal, state and local laws,” the statement said.

Michael D. Cohen, executive vice president and legal counsel to Trump, said the question of illegal hiring practices had not arisen before at a Trump work site.

“Mr. Trump, who is the 100 percent owner of the Old Post Office, hired one of the largest contractors in the world to act as the general contractor,” Cohen said in a telephone interview. “That company is Lend Lease. They then go out and employ subcontractors to work for them. The obligation to check all workers on site is exclusive to Lend Lease. This of course assumes that the assertion regarding the employees’ status is accurate.”

93 posted on 02/21/2016 4:36:29 PM PST by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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To: Fai Mao
Don't forget ardent nationalist.

And please see Trump op-ed from 1999 (A Choice for Human Rights) if you haven't already. Only Menendez among the Democrats might agree with what he wrote.

ML/NJ

94 posted on 02/21/2016 4:45:01 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: bolobaby

he has always said, “legally.”


95 posted on 02/21/2016 4:54:55 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: JoSixChip

I think that if Rubio had proposed this plan, he would be pilloried today as a traitor for promoting amnesty.

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/trump-walking-back-some-amnesty-comments-and-filling-some-blanks-and-we-raise-his-grade
http://www.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512
http://soshable.com/trumps-amnesty-plan-is-supported-by-many-except-his-supporters-who-dont-know-what-it-means/

As someone said above, it’s really about the art of selling the idea. Trump is selling a moderate, NYTimes-sanctioned approach, yet has passionate foes of amnesty giving him a pass, because of the way he says it. Embarrassing. Trump = Kay Bailey Hutchison, and is no tougher on illegals than Rubio.


96 posted on 02/21/2016 5:09:29 PM PST by tekel
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97 posted on 02/21/2016 5:37:25 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: tekel
I think that if Rubio had proposed this plan, he would be pilloried today as a traitor for promoting amnesty.

When did rubio, or cruz for that matter, ever come out with a bold plan to do anything on their own? I don't recommend that you do any more thinking in public, you are clearly not very good at it.
98 posted on 02/21/2016 5:41:00 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: bolobaby

Hell if he said he was running on both party’s tickets
would that be believeable?

Who cares at this stage. He’s in the GOP nomination field, win or lose.


99 posted on 02/21/2016 5:44:37 PM PST by deport
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To: bolobaby

If everything was all different, would it be all different?

Yes or no.


100 posted on 02/21/2016 5:52:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue Ht the testing point. CSLewis)
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