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To: Robert DeLong

I’m apologize, because you are the first Donald Trump supporter here to acknowledge his remarks and attempt to address them, but you’re spinning like a top. Looking at Trump’s remarks, he is clearly of the view that illegal aliens need a path to citizenship and the “comprehensive plan” on immigration is akin to the proposal by the Gang of 8. Under the laws of the United States, illegal aliens shouldn’t be here, shouldn’t be constituting a Lation vote, and the problem is a dereliction of duty and unwillingness to enforce the law. Nothing prevents foreign nationals from Mexico or Latin America form applying for US citizenship. The fact is the unwillingness of our government to execute our laws couplesd with their governments encouraging their illegal migrations and their royal disregard for our soverignty does not entitle them to special deals or privileges. Donald Trump’s plan is touchback amnesty..deportation followed by swift reentry and fast tracking citizenship. Finally Mr. Pot, quit calling the kettles black and we do not ascribe to your cult of personality. We should be repealing the 1965 immigration and nationality act..our military should he defending our borders rather than the 38th parallel or European welfare states..all illegal aliens should face deportation..and US citizens that hire, rent to, and facilitate illegal aliens should face prosecution. There shouldn’t even be talk of legalizing illegal aliens.


80 posted on 02/19/2016 10:32:19 PM PST by A Conservative Thinker (Ted Cruz 2016 - Trump in '04: "I probably identify more as Democrat")
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To: A Conservative Thinker
No, that's your interpretation of it, because quite frankly that the way you want to see it. You are so zoned into Cruz that you have absolutely failed to even entertain the though of actually listening to Trump.

That's called tunnel-vision.

I was in fact a Ted Cruz supporter, who thought Donald Trump was a joke.

As for your juvenile accusation that I am spinning like a top, only hinders your attempts to have any impact upon me. For I spin nothing. Instead I give you my honest view which is clearly evident you reject.

He has never uttered any such thing as even remotely rising to interpretation as a "comprehensive" plan to citizenship. For that path has already been established by Congress.

When he talks about accepting them back in he is clearly talking about that law, the legal method of acquiring citizenship. If somehow you see it as being something akin to the Gang of 8 plan, that's totally on you. You have allowed yourself to be cajoled into believing what Ted Cruz says it means. How does his stating he wants to deport them get construed as something other than that? Is that not confirmation to you that he agrees with your contention that illegals should not be here? If not then I don't know how more explicitly he could state it to convince you.

There is a Latino vote even if all of the illegals were deported tomorrow, because not all are illegal. They came here the right way, and went though the legal steps to obtain their citizenship.

Since Trump has never been in a government position, either Civil Service or elective office, what the government hasn't done cannot be laid at the feet of Donald Trump.

Show me the proof where Donald Trump has spelled out this touchback plan you are so adamantly claiming is his plan. I want definitive proof of him laying it out in clear English and he says he intends to kick them out as some kind of show, to then turn around and let them back in. I'm confident you cannot produce such proof because it doesn't exist. Instead you have allowed Ted Cruz to convince you that this is what Trump intends to do.

There you go again, my cult of personality. I'm frankly sick and tired of Cruz supporters who callously try to demean those they are debating, thinking they have all the answers, while the rest of us are nothing more than mindless lemmings who require someone else to make decisions for us. When in fact you all parrot the same arguments. Who exactly is creating the talking pints for you all to sound as one voice?

Again your attacks only hinder people from taking you seriously or even wanting to listen to what you have to say. In fact you now have me thinking perhaps you all are the members of the Ted Cruz cult.

I'll agree with you that the Hart-Cellar Act needs to be repealed, for it should never have been enacted in the first place. But the Democrats enjoyed a super majority controlling not only the Executive Branch but both Houses of Congress as well. By the time Republicans regained any control the damage had already been done.

Donald Trump and his supporters also agree with your belief that deportation of illegal aliens should be carried out. However, are you sure Ted Cruz plans to deport illegal aliens?

Lastly, we both agree that our borders need to be protected. Donald also believes that. He might even agree with you with regards to disengagement overseas, I honestly do not know because I do not remember him speaking on that subject. That is where I would diverge from both of you and Donald. However, their defense should not be borne solely by the American taxpayer. For our presence there benefits us as well. It gives us forward positions and it makes it ore likely to be the front lines of battles, instead of the United States.

Well may the best man win tomorrow in South Carolina, that being Donald Trump. But whatever the outcome I promise you this. No sitting at home whining about my candidate losing, no 3rd party candidate as a protest vote. Instead I ill be voting for the Republican nominee regardless who it is. Even the two-faced Rubio who I despise the most, even more than Bush. Because he couldn't possibly be as bad as either of the Democrat hopefuls. Because it is what is best for this country. I have serious doubts that Cruz supporters would do the same. For they impress me as reacting more like sore losers than adults if they fail to get their way.

98 posted on 02/20/2016 1:24:52 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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