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To: SubMareener
"In continuing his "New York values" line of attack, Ted Cruz brought up an interview Donald Trump gave years ago in which he himself emphasized his New York background as being important to his political philosophy.

And now we have that interview.

Cruz's campaign posted the video earlier today of Trump with Tim Russert on Meet the Press in 1999.

Russert asked Trump about gay marriage. Trump didn't want to comment on it, but said he has no problem with gays in the military.

He explained, "I've lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, okay? So my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa."

When Russert asked Trump about abortion, he said he's "pro-choice in every respect" and again cited his New York background, which he said has a "different attitude" from most of the country

http://www.mediaite.com/online/heres-the-1999-donald-trump-new-york-values-interview-cruz-has-been-talking-about/
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"the way Trump described his "evolution" from the pro-choice to pro-life position raises some interesting questions.

He said: "Friends of mine years ago were going to have a child, and it was going to be aborted. And it wasn't aborted. And that child today is a total superstar, a great, great child. And I saw that. And I saw other instances."

Now, I'm one who cheers whenever someone publicly switches from supporting abortion rights to supporting human rights for all - including the unborn. I am glad to see people like Norma McCorvey, the "Jane Roe" of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion, or Bernard Nathanson, founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws, become pro-life activists.

But I find it difficult to cheer Trump's conversion, because the reason he gives for being pro-life doesn't correspond to the pro-life ethic.

Trump says he is pro-life because of a "superstar" child who could have been aborted.

Consider how he responded to a reporter who wondered if he would have become pro-life had the child been a "loser":

"Probably not, but I've never thought of it. I would say no, but in this case it was an easy one because he's such an outstanding person."

To summarize Trump's view: "I'm pro-life because we shouldn't abort fetuses that may grow up to be outstanding people."

But opponents of abortion take a different position: "I'm pro-life because we shouldn't kill innocent human beings, no matter who they might grow up to be."

Trump's reason for being pro-life depends on the potential outcome of the child in the womb, rather than the fact that there is a child in the womb. But the pro-life ethic is grounded in the inherent worth of all humanity. It is wrong to commit violence against innocent human beings. Full stop.

And that's where, ironically, Trump's position sounds similar to the pro-choice idea that the human fetus is "potential life" or that the value of the unborn depends on whether or not the child is "wanted."

Extending Trump's logic leads to more problems. If we adopt the position of abortion opponents merely because of what a child may grow up to be (a "superstar!"), then why should we care if 67 percent of Down syndrome children are aborted after a prenatal diagnosis? What would Trump say if he were told there's a better chance an "unwanted" child from an impoverished or minority neighborhood would grow up to be involved in crime? ..."

http://www.religionnews.com/2016/01/26/problem-trumps-change-heart-abortion-commentary/

6 posted on 02/15/2016 1:25:30 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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In other news, ...
Linzey went on to say, “Donald Trump is ruthlessly honest. That means America can trust him to do what he says he will do. The alternative is to have a president who must do what his special interest groups tell him to do during his entire term as president. This means that the president’s relationship with Jesus Christ would take back seat to his relationship with his special interest groups. And when you disappointment them, terrible things can happen to the president and his legacy. The hype among some candidates about how ‘Jesus is Lord’ and quoting Scripture to win the Evangelical vote is a charade.”

Read more at: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9384977423.html


9 posted on 02/15/2016 1:33:43 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ETL

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9384977423.html


19 posted on 02/15/2016 1:52:10 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans!)
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To: ETL
Fill in the blank:

+/- 20 years before becoming a prominent conservative and eventual Republican presidential candidate, ___________began his political career as a Democrat. He joined numerous political committees with a left-wing orientation, such as the American Veterans Committee. He fought against Republican-sponsored right-to-work legislation.

He planned to lead an anti-nuke demonstration and only his employer's intervention prevented it. He was elected president of a large, famous union twice--a union which had known communists among its members.

He appeared ONSTAGE to endorse the Democratic presidential candidate, who subsequently won.

19 years later, as a governor he signed into law a liberalization of abortion that led to an explosion of abortions in his state.

Almost 20 years later, as president, he signed a law that legalized all illegal immigrants who had arrived in the US during the first almost 200 years of the existence of our nation.

I'll fill in the blank for you: our greatest president of the 20th century, known as Ronaldus Magnus, RONALD REAGAN.

39 posted on 02/15/2016 2:31:54 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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53 posted on 02/15/2016 3:07:30 PM PST by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. Do the math.)
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