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1 posted on 02/15/2016 10:57:40 AM PST by sparklite2
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To: Cincinna

Gallic Ping.


2 posted on 02/15/2016 10:58:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sparklite2
There was Vichy France. But there was also the Resistance. One does not cancel out the other. Both stories must be told. And I wish someone would post that picture of a female Resistance member advancing along a wall. I always found that picture inspiring.

And I don't blame de Gaulle one bit for saying what he did. He was speaking as a French patriot, not as some impartial historian.

3 posted on 02/15/2016 11:07:48 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: sparklite2

Much of the Resistance were Communists, who were more loyal to Stalin than to La France.


4 posted on 02/15/2016 11:08:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: sparklite2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorrow_and_the_Pity

The Resistance?

Smaller than people think, and mostly rejects, whackos and the homeless who had NOTHING to lose.

Most people just went with the flow.


5 posted on 02/15/2016 11:14:41 AM PST by gaijin
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To: sparklite2

From my reading, I have to agree with whoever it was who said that, if every Frenchman (and Frenchwoman) who, after the war, stated that they were a member of the resistance, the total would have equaled or exceeded the entire population of France.


12 posted on 02/15/2016 12:16:24 PM PST by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is circumstance. Three times is enemy action.)
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To: sparklite2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM


15 posted on 02/15/2016 1:06:24 PM PST by onedoug
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To: sparklite2

Side note to the vaunted French Resistance

November27, 1942, French fleet at Toulon scuttled

Once again France and her soldiers and sailors were ill served by her aristocratic officer corps.

French Admiral de LaBorde’s stiff backed dithering in having the remaining French fleet breakout of Toulon harbor allowed German forces to take control, locking the French in.

Scuttling charges had been placed before the brief battle and were set off once the loss was inevitable. They succeeded.

The French destroyed 77 vessels, including 3 battleships, 7 cruisers, 15 destroyers, and 13 torpedo boats. Five submarines managed to get underway, with three reaching North Africa, one Spain, and the last forced to scuttle at the mouth of the harbor. The surface ship Leonor Fresnel also escaped. While Charles de Gaulle and the Free French severely criticized the action, stating that the fleet should have tried to escape, the scuttling prevented the ships from falling into Axis hands.

That pathetic excuse tried to gloss over critical loss of vital naval assets that could have been instrumental in controlling the Mediterranean and strangling the supply chain to German Forces in North Africa.

Admiral LaBorde was tried for treason after the war, found guilty and sentenced to death, latee commuted to life.


18 posted on 02/18/2016 3:31:17 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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