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1 posted on 02/13/2016 4:11:44 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman
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Don’t forget online banking...


2 posted on 02/13/2016 4:17:14 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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That was my theory from the start.
Move the data to a personal unsecured server, precisely so others could sneak a peek.


3 posted on 02/13/2016 4:18:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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There is no possible way for anyone who was granted a clearance at the Secret and Top Secret levels could ‘not understand’ enough to determine that slipping classified information out of cleared AIS machines and areas and transmitting in the clear is ILLEGAL and against all regulations and protocols. They signed affidavits attesting to that knowledge and understanding.

To do it is illegal, and to order it done is illegal. For her to imply "I'm just woman that doesn't understand all the computer mumbo jumbo" is a ploy to mislead voters. The real affected parties here are the 16 Intelligence Centers who use this information to fulfill their missions. They most certainly do NOT believe her one bit.

4 posted on 02/13/2016 4:24:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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It was that and more.


5 posted on 02/13/2016 4:31:28 AM PST by Raycpa
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Like I said in other posts. It s time to stop thinking about mishandling of classified information and starting thinking espionage.


6 posted on 02/13/2016 4:42:24 AM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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You seem pretty smart to me....I had only considered it from the point of her own personal secrecy to cover up personal/Clinton financial dealings. You have presented a very compelling theory.

For perspective, we should consider that Bradley Manning used a thumb drive to transfer Secret information; Hillary used an entire server and had TOP SECRET information.


7 posted on 02/13/2016 4:43:51 AM PST by Bill Russell
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It doesn’t matter. That’s where everything ended up.


11 posted on 02/13/2016 4:49:43 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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You are thinking to hard on this IMHO.

She had TS documents on server and this has been proven

This in itself will put her away for a very very long time.

If it can be proven that she was involved in espionage, she can be hung.

The entire Obama administration are traitors and need to be hung anyway and this can be proven by any AG that has any balls.

12 posted on 02/13/2016 4:51:27 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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I don’t claim to smarter than anyone, with the exception of Sander’s voters, but my first instinct and enduring belief is that Hillary used the private server to hide dealings of the Clinton Foundation. The very existence of the foundation constituted an insuperable conflict of interest and should have barred her from consideration for high office, and most especially from becoming Secretary of State. Not only that, there is copious evidence that the foundation benefited from “donations” from parties with interest in the operation of State Department.

The Clintons live in a different universe.


14 posted on 02/13/2016 4:58:58 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Prendre cinq et rendre quatre ce n'est pas donner.)
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Huma has close ties with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Huma

16 posted on 02/13/2016 5:21:05 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Hunga Tonga-Hunga.)
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The only sensible possibility is that:

(1) Hillary wanted to evade public disclosure of her communications to the American people under FOIA and similar laws, and
(2) Hillary wanted other countries to gain easy access to the material she decided to put on that server, but to allow that access to occur with plausible deniability.

Both have to be true, or Hillary would have done this differently. She’s not stupid - just evil.


20 posted on 02/13/2016 5:31:23 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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It is not impossible that she was selling state secrets to the Russians or the Chinese. Putting them on an unsecure sever would be a much safer mode of transmission than inserting papers into holes in trees or handing them over on a lonely road. And you have plausible deniability that way.


21 posted on 02/13/2016 5:33:48 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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I am coming to believe that the woman has functioned as a paid spy.Electing her president would be utterly unthinkable, like electing Barak Hussein.


22 posted on 02/13/2016 5:35:29 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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Anything is possible with the Clintons. Let me throw out a more complex theory. Hillary actually knows almost nothing about technology, and is the thrall of handlers and “experts” who carry out her general desires. Some are helpful stooges, others cynical players serving their own interests. Once the private email system was in place, “other opportunities” arose both for Hillary and her satellites.
Hillary’s initial motives:
1) personal secrecy as an end in itself, her lifelong obsession;
2) needed to evade oversight, subpoenas and FOIA requests, to conceal her incompetence, criminal activity, and political/Presidential machinations.
3) needed to get off-the-books “advice” from S. Bumenthal, et al, because she didn’t know squat about foreign policy and being SoS, after Obama had banned S.B. from working for the DoS;
4) to better integrate Clinton Foundation corruption into her SoS activities;
5) to assert her “power” and contempt for others and “the system”, by breaking rules whenever she can get away with it; this was just an opportunity to non-conform.

But Hillary’s situation morphed over time. Possibilities:
1) Opportunities for Foundation corruption arose that involved letting “interested parties” have a look at specific documents.
2) She wanted to “reassure” foreign interests of her/U.S. good intentions by letting them have easy access to intel (taking a cue from FDR, who let the Soviets spy like crazy under the delusion it would reassure Stalin). Or she wanted to give them a heads up, so they could better deflect and influence Obama’s policy.
3) Some of Hillary’s handlers found H’s server very useful for their own nefarious purposes, using the same methods and means they have developed for Hillary’s machinations, including stripping out classified markings, etc. She would have no idea what her staff was doing. This doesn’t let her off the hook. She willfully created the perfect situation for espionage and back door dealing, without having the means to control it.

I am sure others can come up with variants, but my experience in life is that things change and grow out of the opportunities that the start-up creates, and are often hijacked or take off in unanticipated ways. Motives are rarely simple or static.


27 posted on 02/13/2016 5:49:42 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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The purpose of the server was to be able to operate outside of FOIA requests and government scrutiny/records requirements.

Thus any communications she had with anyone were under her complete control. Anything incriminating could be deleted. In her mind she was in charge, and as long as the other party remained quiet, she could continue to graft and grift her way to wealth. Also, we should be looking at the investors in her son-in-law’s hedge fund.

DO not for a moment think that Chelsea is immune from culpability here. She has spent her entire life and the knee of some of the worst human beings imaginable.


30 posted on 02/13/2016 6:01:43 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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[...Hillary was using her unsecured server as a way to transfer state secrets to her benefit by using the excuse that the info was stolen?]

I have no doubt about that. Why would so many wall street companies pay 3/4 of a million for boring and lying Hillary speeches?


31 posted on 02/13/2016 6:04:05 AM PST by kindred (Time for a third party for Christians and conservatives and overtaxed patriots.)
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The Clintons have been funneling secure information to the Chicoms for years and years. This is why, if the FBI has the goods on this b!t¢h, they need to get it out. NOW.


32 posted on 02/13/2016 6:23:01 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Why do we give our hearts to the past? And why must we grow up so fast?)
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Note that Hillary/Brian Pagliano had to make Hillary’s server relatively difficult to hack, to prevent leaks other than intended, and subsequent blackmail or exposure of the whole game.

If access was allowed, the specific “hackers” would have been provided information on how to get into the system. This could be complicated coding, or something as simple as giving them admin passwords, so that their access would appear to be Pagliano doing maintenance. Or perhaps Pagliano was the conduit himself — he could access the server, copy any docs he wanted (as files or simply writing down the info), and send them anywhere, with no one the wiser. Though I see the whole espionage angle as far-fetched, Pagliano’s refusal to answer questions about any of this on Fifth Amendment grounds makes you wonder. FBI should definitely be investigating ALL his email accounts, drives, and computers.


33 posted on 02/13/2016 6:26:29 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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“Remember Hillary’s first excuse was that she was just not tech savvy.....................How could she alone have thought of a server? Who put her up to this and on and on....


36 posted on 02/13/2016 6:42:37 AM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR" i)
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You have a lot of people agreeing with you. As soon as I heard what the Clinton Foundation was up to, it was a logical suspicion.


39 posted on 02/13/2016 7:00:11 AM PST by binreadin
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