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1 posted on 02/09/2016 9:15:26 AM PST by andy1954
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To: andy1954

Hang in there and don’t be intimidated.
He’s not my guy, but the attitudes around here this election season are pretty hard edged.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 9:17:50 AM PST by nascarnation (Indict Hillary, Huma, and Chelsea; Deport Obama)
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To: andy1954

When did FR start posting so many vanities especially those not marked as such?


3 posted on 02/09/2016 9:18:36 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: andy1954

So you are okay with the following:
Gang of Eight:
Sen. Michael Bennet, D-CO
Sen. Richard J. Durbin, D-IL
Sen. Jeff Flake, R-AZ
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC
Sen. John McCain, R-AZ
Sen. Bob Menendez, D-NJ
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-FL
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-NY

What they did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(immigration)
http://www.natlawreview.com/node/16083
http://www.natlawreview.com/article/senators-reach-bipartisan-agreement-comprehensive-immigration-reform
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/301735-gang-of-eight-plots-strategy-for-immigration-floor-fight
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/294387-schumer-introduces-comprehensive-immigration-reform-bill
http://www.natlawreview.com/article/immigration-reform-highlights-senate-committee-judiciary-hearing

And even last year Marco Ruboto was still pushing it:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/02/marco-rubio-jorge-ramos-will-keep-obamas-first-executive-amnesty-place-legislative-amnesty-enacted/


4 posted on 02/09/2016 9:20:19 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: andy1954

I’m a Cruzer. Rubio is the only other candidate (truly prolife) I could vote for but that would be a significant and troubling compromise that I would have to pray hard about before making.


5 posted on 02/09/2016 9:20:25 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: andy1954

Rubio is very eloquent, but Christie was right about the memorized sound bites. Hillary will make him look youthful and inexperienced.


6 posted on 02/09/2016 9:20:55 AM PST by notacentfortribute
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To: andy1954

Want to know what Rubio will do as president? Just ask what would Paul Ryan would do?

Cruz Trump or lose.


7 posted on 02/09/2016 9:21:50 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Black privilege--being able to falsely yell racism and have the media fawn all over you.)
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Props to Rubio for standing firm on the “obama is not incompetent - he knows exactly what he is doing” theme. I think this is an important point and deserves repeating despite the “robot” accusations.


8 posted on 02/09/2016 9:23:27 AM PST by corkoman
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To: andy1954
I watched the IRCA of '86 turn California into a permanently dark blue state.

And that initially affected 1.5 million illegals. Through chain migration it added millions of democrat voters to the state. Now even a moderate republican has a snowballs chance in hell here. Gun rights are being gobbled up, fraudulent voting is rampant.

We used to be a swing state. Now the conservative agenda is extinct.

Any suggestion that we should repeat this fiasco tenfold is an absolute deal breaker for me. I will NEVER support a candidate who supports it.

9 posted on 02/09/2016 9:23:43 AM PST by skeeter
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To: andy1954

Anyone foolish enough to think Marco is trustworthy, when he has backstabbed his constituents after every previous election, really doesn’t have any standing to criticize others here (not even the Trump brigade).


10 posted on 02/09/2016 9:24:40 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: andy1954

I’ll take your bet on topic #1. And on topic #3 It has nothing to do with him being, or not being, a conservative. Quit trying to steer the narrative to a straw man.


11 posted on 02/09/2016 9:24:52 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Trump/Cruz 2016 or the other way around.)
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1.. Welcome to FR..

2. In my opinion Rubio isn’t a good choice due to his take on illegal immigration..

A couple of things to checkout:

Marco Rubio: In immigration reform, legalization comes first - ‘It is not conditional’ - 2013
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rubio-in-immigration-reform-legalization-comes-first-it-is-not-conditional/article/2531504

Rubio: I Will Keep Obama’s First Executive Amnesty In Place Until Legislative Amnesty Enacted
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/02/marco-rubio-jorge-ramos-will-keep-obamas-first-executive-amnesty-place-legislative-amnesty-enacted/

Rubio co-sponsored a bill backing in-state tuition for illegals while a member of the Florida House
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/06/rubio-co-sponsored-a-bill-backing-in-state-tuition-for-illegals-while-a-member-of-the-florida-house/

Rubio Spokesman Admits: Gang of Eight Bill Did Not ‘Secure the Borders First’
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/30/rubio-spokesman-admits-gang-of-eight-bill-did-not-secure-the-borders-first/

Rubio was the CO-Sponser of the monstrosity that is called the gang of 8 bill.


12 posted on 02/09/2016 9:25:41 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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“even in his home state (I am a Texan)”

LOL. Cruz polls higher than Rubio in RUBIO’S HOME STATE!


15 posted on 02/09/2016 9:26:56 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: andy1954

Marco has proved he can be bought and manipulated by the GOPe (see Gang of 8) against conservatism, the rule of law, and the interests of most Americans. Therefore, RINOs love him best.

If you want to be on that band-wagon, enjoy.

I’ll decline.


16 posted on 02/09/2016 9:27:06 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Marco "Stepford" Rubio.)
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To: andy1954

Personally, I think what’s getting VERY old is the constant personal attacks on people simply because of who they support.

We can support whomever we choose. Other people are free to disagree. But as for me, turning that disagreement into a personal attack is guaranteed to do only one thing: Strengthen my support of Trump, and make me dislike the attacker.

The same goes for supporters of other candidates. Attack the poster and you lose the argument and create an enemy at the same time.

It’s perfectly reasonable to disagree. You might even persuade someone if you respectfully articulate why. But you will never convince someone by attacking them.

I’ve never seen it this bad before, and not just on this site. It’s all over the Internet. I have to think it’s being fomented by paid operatives whose sole mission is to anger and divide people.


18 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:01 AM PST by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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Andy, I was completely with you until the debate. But if Rubio not only supports having women register for the draft, but supports their "right" to be in combat MOS's, he not only lost my vote in the primary, but I wouldn't even vote for him (or Bush or Christie) in the general election.

That being said, I agree with your point that people should be able to discuss other candidates without the rudeness and invective that have become all too common here.

20 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:17 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: andy1954
Not voting is a valid position to take if Trump or Cruz are not the nominee. That somehow it will show them a lesson or will in the long run help the conservative movement.

I have a real problem with folks who believe that not voting is an illegitimate choice (regardless of the reason). It is certainly legitimate, although it should certainly be a rare tactic.

The republican party has elected to select candidates numerous times on the basis of "not being as bad" as the democrat, ignoring the expressed will of their base for a more conservative choice. The rationale for browbeating anyone reticent to support the nominee (for whatever reason) is that lack of support is explicit support for the other side. In effect, the voters are being told they are not allowed to have any form of minimum standards beyond an R next to the candidate name.

Why should any conservative support a party who tells them to go screw themselves so often, and almost always says it more strongly on important issues? "We're not as bad" is not a valid reason. Slow poisoning is just as deadly as fast.

21 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:21 AM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: andy1954

Hang in there! In a month or 2 it will all be over and sanity will resume it normal sway here at FR.

Primary season around here is like being in the Roman gladiatorial games.


22 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:26 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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I support Cruz, but believe that any of candidates except John Ellis Bush can easily defeat HRC. She is a very weak candidate.


27 posted on 02/09/2016 9:33:25 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: andy1954
Good for you! Support your man.

So long as he's not named "Bush," he'll get my vote in the general election should he be the nominee.

I actually think he might make a good VP selection, although I'm sure that's not your priority right now.

28 posted on 02/09/2016 9:33:40 AM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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>> Most on here know by now I am supporting Marco Rubio for the Republican nominee.

You’ve been here less than two months, n00b.

Mighty presumptuous of you to think that “most on here” know anything at all about you.

The one thing I do know is that I’m not buying what you’re selling. Rubio is the (R) Obama. He will NOT get my vote!


32 posted on 02/09/2016 9:35:19 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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